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BALL IN …

How has it come to this?

Another season nearly in the books …

It seems like it was only yesterday that we celebrated one of the best All-Star weekends in recent memory, with Dwight Howard stealing the show with his Superman dunk.  To be sure, we’ve come a long way from referee scandals, the new ball, a commissioner on the precipice, thug life, and a general apathy for the beautiful game of NBA basketball.

Today, nary an NBA fan anywhere isn’t counting down the days until the first jump ball of the post season.  And if the battle for the eighth and final playoffs spots in the West is any indication of what we can expect, what a post season we’re going to have!

Unfortunately, this also signals the end of MeanD’s Regular Season Big Board for the 2007-08 campaign.  And while I’ll miss the games and the fierce jockeying for position, I’ll not miss the weekly tracking, the incessant games watching (30 teams x’s 82 games per), the injuries that took players in and out of competition, and/or the heartbreak of a player not quite making the cut after seeing him come ever so close.   But that’s the nature of this competition, for their can only be one winner, save MeanD’s Regular Season Big Board where there are 51 winners — one with immunity — with the top eight from each category (41 total) moving on to post season competition.

In preparation for the playoffs, how ’bout we bring this season to a close by announcing the top 5 players who consistently got it done in 2007-08.


PREMIER POINT GUARD (PPG)

Chris PaulAlthough the season started with Steve Nash ruling the roost, there were signs as early as mid-season last year that the two-time MVP was slowing down.  Newcomers Chris Paul and Deron Williams were quickly establishing themselves as the point guards of the future, with seemingly little reverence for Steve Nash’s consecutive MVP accomplishment only two years earlier.  Whereas many have argued that Nash’s season last year was statistically better than both his MVP seasons, there was no denying that the motor that makes the Phoenix Suns go could not hold off the youthful charge of talanted floor generals, Paul and Williams.

This year, MVP finalist Chris Paul won the PPG ranks; thus, he will enter the post season in gold print.  And although I am on record as saying I believe Deron Williams is the best PG in today’s game, he didn’t prove me right as he only managed a close second to Paul’s MVP-caliber season, with Nash falling to third, and Detroit’s Chauncey Billups ranking a distant fourth.  Nonetheless, I’d like to note the great seasons of Baron Davis, Andre Miller, Jason Kidd, Rajon Rondo, Rafer Alston, and Jose Calderon.  All had fantastic seasons but only eight can make the post season board, so Rafer Alston and Jose Calderon will not make the post season cut.  By missing the cut, with both players’ teams being playoffs bound, this suggests neither Houston nor Toronto has a real chance to win this year’s NBA title.

As talented as the PPG ranks were this year, it is a top to middle- heavy category, but solid depth 1-10.  The point guard ranks, however, become dangerously thin after the top eight.  Jason Terry and Devin Harris showed promise, but never quite managed to stick, with no other guards ever making it into the top ten.  Factor in the aging Nash, Billups, Davis, Kidd, and Miller, and the PPG ranks are in dire need of an infusion of new and capable talent.  Thus, the future bodes well for the likes of Raymond Felton, Mike Conley, and Memphis’ Derrick Rose should he decide to turn pro this year.


BEST DAMN GUARD (BDG)

Kobe BryantKobe Bryant is hands down the best among the Best Damn Guard ranks.  Surviving the otherworldly charge of Tracy McGrady on the strength of the Houston Rockets 22-game win streak, Kobe quickly regained the top spot after only one week at No. 2.  As for McGrady, injuries once again were a factor in his inability to land the top spot and hold it, which was further diminished by the stellar play of Manu Ginobili who literally carried the Spurs during reigning BDG, Tony Parker’s absence.  For approximately six weeks, Ginobili played like the best two-guard in the game.  But it was not to last as once Parker returned, Ginobili was again relegated to a sixth man role.

Surprisingly, Allen Iverson ends the season ranked as the  No. 2 BDG, which says a lot about the growth and maturity of his game.  Iverson of course took over primary ball handling responsibilities after Steve Blake was traded to Portland in the off season.  He is now the team’s floor leader and assists man, with J.R. Smith sliding into Iverson’s two-guard spot, logging significant minutes and production.

Tracy McGrady placed a distant fourth, which would have been even further down had it not been for Houston’s 22-game run.  Although T-Mac was hardly as consistent as the three ahead of him, he flashed big time game all season long despite some nagging injures, as well as losing his low post mate, Yao Ming, for a significant portion of the season.  The Rocket’s could easily have collapsed without Yao if not for the big time play of McGrady, along with backcourt partner Rafer Alston.

Brandon Roy got out of the gates early and initially looked to be every bit as talented as inaugural BDG winner Dwyane Wade, who began the year ranked a close second behind Kobe Bryant but ultimately succumbed to injuries and poor play by the Heat.  Conversely, Roy had Portland positioned to make the playoffs well into the season, but could not close the deal, as injuries and a stacked Western Conference took a heavy toll on the young Blazers squad.  As such, Roy fell to a disappointing 9th, suggesting that he isn’t quite world-class yet.

Rounding out the BDG ranks is last year’s Most Improved Player, Monta Ellis, who used to come off the bench but, with the departure of Jason Richardson, was thrust into the starting lineup alongside Baron Davis.  Ray Allen didn’t have a breakout season for Boston but he was steady and consistent and remained the deadly deep threat that has become his trademark.  Closely behind Allen is Rip Hamilton who, like Ray, always gets it done on a consistent basis.  Injuries and age also slowed Rip this year, allowing Philadelphia’s Andre Iguodala, and Sacramento’s Kevin Martin to close the gap significantly.

Although the two-guard ranks remained strong this year, the absence of 2005-06 Finals MVP Dwyane Wade, as well as Wizard’s guard Gilbert Arenas definitely shifted some of this category’s usual glamor to other positions, most notably the MP3 and PFC ranks.


MOST POTENT THREE (MP3)

Lebron JamesSpeaking of the MP3 ranks, there is definitely something lacking in Cleveland.  Although Lebron James sat on the throne all season, he did not close the season in impressive fashion.    As last year’s Eastern Conference finals representative, and clearly the best small forward in the game, LBJ and the Cavs did not take the next evolutionary step toward becoming NBA champs.  In fact, it can be argued that they regressed, which unfortunately put even more pressure on the King’s All-World game.  This is not what many predicted entering the season, leaving many to speculate on how much longer James will be a member of the Cavaliers.  It would have been great to leave the city with a championship but it looks like Lebron will be headed for many party-hearty and sleepless nights in the city that never sleeps, New York?  The only question is, will he be a member of the Knicks, or the Brooklyn-bound, New Jersey Nets?

Paul Pierce followed James at a not-too-distant second, with Hedo Turkoglu finishing a surprising third, ahead of All-World small forward, Carmelo AnthonyTayshaun Prince, Rashard Lewis, Josh Howard, Peja Stojakovic, Caron Butler, and Rudy Gay round out the top ten, with Butler and Gay not making the post season board.  For Butler, this is extremely disappointing as he was easily a top-five small forward until injuries unraveled his season.  And, whereas he has been coming on since his return from injury, he hasn’t quite brought the game necessary to regain his lost spot.  Nonetheless, Butler will figure prominently for the Wizards who, with Caron in the lineup, and with the return of Arenas, are more than capable of upsetting any first round foe.


POWER FORWARD CHAMP (PFC)

Amare StoudemireThere is a new king of the PFC ranks: Amare Stoudemire!  Primarily on the strength of his post All-Star game production, as well as the blockbuster trade that brought Shaquille O’Neal to the Suns, Amare is the new face of the NBA’s newly-emerging glamor position.  Having successfully battled back from microfracture surgery, his ascension is long overdue.

As the league is currently constructed, the power forward ranks are easily the deepest in the NBA, with the likes of former league MVPs Kevin Garnett and Tim Duncan sandwiched around last year’s league MVP Dirk Nowtizki and big-time gamer, Carlos BoozerDavid West is nipping at Duncan’s heels, with Lamar Odom chasing West.  Rounding out the top-ten are Antawn Jamison, Antonio McDyess, and Chris Bosh.  Bosh, due to injury, never managed to climb back into the top eight and will therefore miss the post season competition, which suggests that Toronto like Cleveland did not evolve this year.  As a result, the Raptors will not be much of a factor in the East.

If the PFC ranks continue to develop at its current pace, look for more and more Lord of the League winners, and ultimately NBA champions, to come from this category.


CENTER-EXTRAORDINAIRE (CEO)

Dwight HowardIt seems like it wasn’t that long ago that the 5-spot was the premier position on the floor.  Unfortunately, in today’s game this is far from the case.  But there is light at the end of the tunnel.    With a foot injury shelving Yao Ming, Dwight Howard won this category handily, which isn’t saying much considering how far the development of his game still has to go.  Nonetheless, Howard acquitted the position nicely.  Look for Howard’s game to take the next evolutionary step toward superstardom over the summer, easily making he and Yao Ming the centers of record for the forseeable future.

Tim Duncan should be in this category, but he’s not.  I’ll leave it at that.  And so should Andrew Bynum, who continues to struggle to get back on the floor since dislocating his left kneecap months ago.  This created an opportunity for Timberwolves center Al Jefferson to claim the number two spot of the year.  Unfortunately, Big Al won’t be banging down low in the post season.  Still, he had a tremendous 2007-08 campaign.

Close on Jefferson’s heels is Lakers F-C, Pau Gasol, and Hornets big man, Tyson Chandler.  Both centers had great seasons, with the out-of-position Gasol gaining the edge via style points via his solid low post and mid-range games, as well as superior passing skills.  Rasheed Wallace held off the furious charge of oft-injured Shaquille O’Neal, while Mehmet Okur more than held his own as a deep threat with a burgeoning interior game.  Former Defensive Player for the Year, Marcus Camby grabbed the final post season spot, with Zydrunas Ilgauskas and Andris Biedrins rounding out the top ten.  However, Biedrins along with Al Jefferson will miss the post season cut.

And with that, we’re ready for the post season, save a bit of house cleaning (seedings) still to be determined.


It has been a long, but thrilling challenge bringing you this year’s rankings.  Done in the spirit of developing, growing, and selling the game both domestically and abroad, all indicators are that the NBA is indeed adopting a more International flavor.  As such, the game is replete with hybrid specialists, with many players now having the skill-set to play two, if not three positions.  In this regard, I am both encouraged and saddened.

I am encouraged because all indicators suggest the game is once again headed in the right direction as a growing and thriving professional sport.  However, I am discouraged by the evolution of the NBA’s once sacred specialized nature, which is now being overtaken by hybrids and isolationism on the perimeter.  Nonetheless, I am happy to report that a healthy 20% of my Big Board is comprised of talented International players who are restoring the skills of shooting and ball movement to a game that was severely lacking in both areas.  Combine this with the resurgence of white, home grown players in the league and on the NCAA’s horizon, and I am even more excited about the prospects for next year’s MeanD’s Regular Season Big Board.  For, without question, the NBA is whole again, and moving in the right direction.

What a difference a year makes!

And with that …

GAME, my partner deuces!

Look for MeanD’s 2007-08 PLAYOFF PREVIEW this Friday.


Click below to reveal this week’s BIG BOARD.TM

MeanD's Big Board

ERRORS & OMISSIONS:

As with any list, there will be those who are left off.  For these deserving few, all is not lost.  With a little determination, and elbow grease, a spot on MeanD’s Big Board is but one crucial rebound, one big-time block, one clutch jumper, or one sweet dish away.  Keep at it fellas, MeanD is watching.

HONORABLE MENTION
(MADE BIG BOARD BUT COULDN’T STICK)

Jason Terry (Dal) - Gotta hit big shots
Devin Harris (NJ) - Traded
Dwyane Wade (Mia) - Injuries and franchise fiasco
Michael Redd (Mil) - Injuries and poor team performance
Jamal Crawford (NY) - Franchise fiasco
Joe Johnson (Atl) - Too inconsistent
Jason Richardson (Cha) - Made the difference for Warriors
Vince Carter (NJ) - The beginning of the end?
Richard Jefferson (NJ) - In search of new surroundings?
Stephen Jackson (GS) - Shot faltered down the stretch
Grant Hill (Phx) - What might have been …
Ron Artest (Sac) - Still got game, still a head case
Gerald Wallace (Cha) - Must discipline game
Andrei Kirilenko (Uth) - Solid role player
Shawn Marion (Mia) - Traded
Yao Ming (Hou) – Injured
Chris Kaman (LAC) - Injuries and inconsistency
Andrew Bynum (LAL) - Injured, but so much promise!
Erick Dampier (Tor) - Too much of a non-factor
Andrew Bogut (Mil) - Finally coming into his own
Emeka Okafor (Cha) - Bigger production all the way around
Josh Smith (Atl) - Flying into relevancy
Brad Miller (Sac) - Once upon a time …


 Teases are done for the season.

LOTL Postseason Edition posts Monday & Friday mornings.
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76 Responses to “LOTL: 2007-08 Regular Season Wrap”

Good job Mean!!! Looking forward to your playoff preview when the seeds are set!!!

Toronto v. Houston Finals with Yao being the MVP of the finals. Book it bro, BOOK IT!

Just kidding. I see you working. We’re only days away from the dance…

MeanDovine

With the prejudices out there that the journalists have, I sincerely doubt that at the end of the day we’ll be entirely happy with their decision.

Hell, if the voting was being tabulated in Florida there’d be already talk of a recount by some.

But at the end of the day , it may well come down to who becomes successful by way of winning the #1 seeding in the Western Conference . As good as Garnett has been throughout much of the season, it’s been the stellar play of both CP3 & Bryant that’s had us & them in awe . And that’s as it should be. Garnett had Allen & Pierce around him. What really did CP3 and Bryant really have? That’s been the inherent difference to my mind for much of the season.

How that’ll equate with the judges though in the end is anyone’s guess. These guys are a law unto themselves in the end and nothing they’d do would surprise me in the end.

There’s some serious problems over at the site as demon’ sought fit to mess around with a few things . But still come on over and chime in with a few comments as and when you’re ready.

tophatal ……….

Spidey!

Thanks for the visit. Looking forward to your peeping my Playoff Preview.

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Dan,

Toronto vs. Houston … Next year!

Sounds like a plan …

Until then, let’s get the 2007-08 playoffs popping’!

Check you later, gator!

For me it was definitely about winning the Western Conference, Tophat.

With Kobe and the Lakers winning at home against New Orleans on Friday, and New Orleans losing two crucial games in a row and thus, the No. 1 seed in the West, the decision became much easier to make.

However, I had Paul as my leading MVP candidate up until this past weekend.

Let’s get these playoffs started shall we …

mean,

Won’t argue the board. Would be nice to see a 6TH man category perhaps.

I’m not sold on the ref scandal being over. I hope this year the players decide who wins and who doesn’t.

Let’s get this party started!

Good luck to everybody and their team.

Kobe for MVP…I respect the talent but not the man…gotta go with CP3.

props as always

Perhaps I’ll add a sixth man category next year, Pump.

Let me work on the logistics of how to track it.

As for Kobe, like I said, I had CP3 winning MVP honors until the past two games. I knew it would come down to the wire, and unfortunately, New Orleans faltered. I really thought they’d win out.

Party starts here Friday, bro.

Word to Chris Paul. Sublte changes in his playing style since he entered the league. It’s made such a big difference. We see you, CP.

Word to Kobe. Word to KG. Word to LBJ.

But I’m of that Charles Barkley mindset where the real MVP won’t be apparent until it’s all said and done.

Just think about the look on Dirk’s face when they gave him the Mo Po last year. He was downright embarassed. 82 long games, but now they really count.

Well said, Lefty.

If not for the Hornets last two losses, I’d still have some contemplation to do as well.

I had CP3 ahead until this weekend, but a loss to Kobe and the Lakers, followed by Sacramento sealed his fate.

It’s now win or go home, baby!

man i had a reply all typed out earlier hit somethin and it was gone … hate that crap

mvp shouldn’t be won or loss based on two games it should be based on the whole body of work for the season .. anybody who has a vote and solely bases their vote on cp3’s two loss’s is comp retarded .. that’s not even sound reasoning .. to me mvp means doing more with less .. kobe has had odom .. gasol and to an extent bynum .. what has cp3 had to work with an inconsistent peja a inexperienced west and bonzi wells lol .. and i’m so sick and tired of the ” it’s kobes time ” bs talk or the ” ohh hes waited long enough just hand it to him ” talk that’s redclious you give it to the most deserving not on how long somebody’s been waiting.

sorry havent been around mean this past season but will be here for the playoffs ..

much love and respect bro

GR8,

I hear you, bro., but I didn’t base my decision on only two games. I had the race so close ’til the end, with CP3 having a slight edge. I still had CP3 ahead even after the Hornets lost to the Lakers on Friday as a result of their huge comeback. But when the Hornets lost to the Kings, in such a pivotal game, with home-court in the Western Conference hanging in the balance, I was moved to vote for Kobe. It wasn’t an easy decision, but I am convinced it is the right one.

As for who Paul has to work with … David West is nice. Peja has been in many epic post season battles. Bonzi is more than capable, and Tyson is on the cusp of becoming a league recognized force at the center position. Certainly I credit CP3 and Coach Scott for bringing this team together, but it has been mostly Paul helping this team to coalesce, so you’re right, he does deserve mad props …

As for Kobe, he has simply brought it all season. Of all the guys to ride my board this season, Kobe has ruled the BDG roost all year save one week when T-Mac and the Rockets peaked with their 22-game win streak, so I also can’t take anything away from Bryant either.

Again, it was a tough decision, but I am known for my ability to be decisive and resolute.

Therefore, I have Kobe winning the MVP by a slim margin.

I am so happy to know you’ll be around for the post season. I’m really looking forward to your participation.

Much love, bro.

Best …

I had Chris Paul till the last two games. I thought all along Kobe would get the award no matter what. I still like Paul better because it is a season award. Did any one think of where New Orleans was last year?

I had strong feelings for Kevin Garnett but he has two other All Stars around him. Where was Boston last year?

My favorite is of course Amare Stoudemire! Look at what he’s doing every night? But Steve Nash and Shaq are there too!

Labron James & Superman Dwight Howard rank behind the above mentioned!

Kobe Bryant
Chris Paul
Amare Stoudemire
Kevin Garnett
Lebron James
Dwight Howard

All in that order!

Sounds like you and I think very similarly, Tom.

Thanks for your perspective on the matter.

Get your playoffs thinking cap ready.

We’re gonna be calling ‘em like we see ‘em, bro.

:)

Mean Dovine
It’s like you say ‘win or go home baby ‘ ….. And that’s what it’s all ’bout at the end of the day. But I’d dare that each of the candidates mentioned would rather an NBA championship ring at the end of the day rather than a
League MVP award when it’s all said and done ?

tophatal …….

It’s all about the ring, Tophat.

It’s all about the ring.

Hey Mean-Stellar way to finish up the regular season. I for one agree about Deron Williams being the best true PG in today’s game. It’s easy to get caught up in CP3’s game, no doubt. But in the long run, I’ll take Deron. Too bad the Suns didn’t when they had the chance . . . oh look, there’s a dead horse. Let’s beat it! Alston has elevated himself to the precipice. In a few years, he may be the Mo Cheeks of his generation. Not flashy, not a popular reference point (pun intended), but a player his team will be just fine with, thank you. If he stays and grows with the same team, and if his team can continue to improve, look out.

Regarding the new/incoming crop of PGs, fear not, my brother. That is one position flourishing as we speak in today’s NBA. There is new and capable talent around the corner, as that is now the most contested position in The League. Nowhere else on the floor is there so little margin for error. The cream will rise. Again, fear not, my brother. After all, as much as we like the low post game, the changing of the guard (again, pun intended) will give us a surplus of players who can shoot and defend a little, dribble and pass quite well, and shoot free throws. Yes, The League is-a-changing.

BDG-Kobe Bryant. Long forgotten is his finger injury, which will require surgery in the off-season, most likely. Though I believe the common opinion of some was that he should have had it done at the time, we’ve never walked in his shoes. He decided to put it off. Because he wants the chip. BADLY.

MP3-I’m thinking, like you, the Wizards could make some noise in the East. So could the Sixers. Call me crazy. It wouldn’t be the first time, but there’s no such thing as a sure thing. Can either of us feel comfortable putting a ton of faith in either the Celtics or the Pistons? Okay, maybe we could. But the Celtics as a group have never been there before, and as much as I want to see Flip Saunders get it done, since I think he got a raw deal in Minnesota, they do have Rasheed Wallace. Who knows what’ll happen there. And I love Billups, but am I the only one that’s noticed that he isn’t quite all that in huge games?

PFC-Funny how Amare looks so much better playing alongside a big man down low. Kudos to Mike D’Antoni for only taking four years to figure that out. The guy (D’Antoni, that is) is obviously a freakin’ genius. Stoudemire a power forward rather than a center. ‘Scuse me while I try to grasp that concept. All the ones you mentioned are worthy. No, not Jaames Worthy – he could teach them a thing or six. But worthy nonetheless. I love all their games, but D. West surprised me the most this year, and here’s why; I thought he could really take the next step, and he did. So often when we expect that from a player, it doesn’t happen. Now, is he motivated enough to crack MeanD’s Big Board top five next year? Time will tell.

CEO-Howard is raw but talented, no doubt. And perhaps the only true center under 25 in the league. Nice call on #2, Al Jefferson. Sometimes I get tired of the McHale bashing from T-Wolves’ fans, and Jefferson is why. They were going nowhere with Garnett, but at least now they have a future. Don’t get me wrong, Jefferson is not Garnett. Not yet, at least. But he’s a good place to start a little rebuilding, wouldn’t you say?

I share your view of The League in its current state. While I love watching & appreciating the influence of Dirk and Leandro, I miss the ‘givens’ that were the positions held by players like Barkley, Malone, and Reggie Miller, to name a few.

Mean D
Ah yes the proverbial brass ring that so many players strive for. But in the end only a chosen few’ll ever obtain one. That’s what in the end separates the the men from the boys
as the eternal circle of life that is the NBA continues.
I’m hoping that Curtis can get things back on track really soon. As it’s proving to be a real pain in the as*s at present . Especially when I can’t get to properly respond to comments or even access my own damn site. Why in hell’s name he’d want to change things around without letting everyone know in advance is beyond me.

tophatal ……….

Mean’
This is what it’s about at the end of the day.

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tophatal ………

What up, Ricko!

Thanks for your wrap as well. Very well done.

And thanks for the assurance on the POG position. Of all the positions in the ‘L’, it worries me most. It seems like only yesterday fans were lamenting the dearth of true “pass-first” point guards — with guys like Baron Davis being the norm. Now the lake is restocked and fishing is great.

[Why the fishing analogy I don't know ...]

Still, all in all, THE LEAGUE is headed in the right direction, which is a welcome sight.

Can’t wait to get crackin’ on my Playoff Preview. I hope things get set out West by the end of play tonight.

Holler back, Ricko!

Again, great comments!

Yep, Tophat, that’s what it’s all about.

Nice hardware!

Hey Mean,

Great post. Bring on the playoffs. I can’t wait to see who comes out victorious on your board. It should prove to be an exciting playoff season.

Thank you, Miz. B.

You’re right, the playoffs promise to be one hack of a ride.

:)

Great post mean, cant wait for the playoff posts

I gotta give the mvp nod to paul

Anyway you slice it kobe just has a better surrounding cast and organization than paul does.

Im sorry but without kobe there’s still a VERY good chance the lakers still get into the playoffs.

You take paul off the hornets and they’re the miami least.

Paul sets up everything and everyone on that team except maybe david west.

Sorry kobe, you should’ve attempted to play some more team ball BEFORE the guys around you made their inevitable natural growth that you somehow are getting credit for now.

Matter of fact, with the pathetic leadership he displayed by throwing the entire ORGANIZATION under the buss he really shouldnt even be considered for the award.

The celts would still be top 5 in the east with jefferson instead of garnett and the celts have won without him this season (and they have 2 other HOF’ers) so i cant even see him in it at all.

Lebron had it imo, but he and his team have faded BADLY down the second half and that cost him in my book.

About the final big board, hard to argue anyone of the top finishers.

What an awesome season!!!

Mean Dovine
All hail to the King …..’for the King lives in the guise of CP III . My pick for the League MVP this season. My condolences to Messrs. Bryant , James , Garnett et all. But this year it’s been the year of the Paul. And what a year it has been !

tophatal …………

Thank you der, RIDGE!

And Paul it is …

It’s hard to argue, but the Lakers would be in the same boat without Kobe and sans the Gasol fleecing, uh, I mean, trade.

Still, I had Paul for most of the year, but after losing the last two, I can see he’s till one click away from top dog status.

Just my two cents. I certainly respect yours.

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Tophat,

We’ve got you down for Paul as well.

Righteo!!

Thanks for hollerin’ at a playa this Tuesday morning, guys.

8)

mean,

I gotta wonder what Nelly was thinking sitting Davis the whole second half of what was an elimination game. That’s gonna brew all summer.

holla

pumpdude,

Nelly ain’t by no means the brightest light on a Christmas tree and for all sense and purpose he just blew the hell out of the Warriors’ postseason hopes. What an ignoremus and I dare say that most Warrior fans would want to hang his ass up on high! What a tool.

tophatal …………

Pump,

Nelly perhaps felt Baron quit on the team, which looked a bit deflated in the first half of last night’s game.

The Warriors were perhaps still in shock they lost to Denver on their home floor, with no players being more affected and/or blamed than Stephen Jackson and Baron Davis.

In short, I think the Warriors collectively believed there is no way in hell Denver loses to Memphis at home, meaning they were gonna be out anyway.

Nellie, for his part, wanted the team to fight until the end. But Baron probably wasn’t buying into it. To make matters worse, the L.A. media has been talking all season about a possible Baron Davis move to the Lakers in the off season, so perhaps Baron is already packed?

I was very surprised that Nellie kept him out, but you can’t argue with the result. The reserves got them back in the game and kept them there well into the fourth quarter, which is when I thought for sure Nellie would re-insert Baron.

To be sure, Nellie’s was a most curious decision.

We can probably color Baron gone from Golden State.

Mean

If the feeling is now that strong do you honestly feel that it’ll happen? More to the point I can never understand many of Nelson’ s so called maneuvers . Much of the time they’ve no rhyme, reason or sense to anything that he does. Now he’s in a situation where he’ll now definately have two very disgruntled players that’ll bo doubt want to leave the franchise. What damn sense does that make?

Nelly’s never been a strong communicator with his players and that’s always been the rub against him. Good though not a great coach but even less of great communicator and that’s half the battle right there from get go .

tophatal …………

Tophat,

You might be right. I’ve also heard many of the complaints you level against Nellie.

It’ll be interesting seeing what direction Golden State takes.

Mean D’

I don’t know that they’ll fire him, especially after him recently signing a long term contract extention. And revamping the roster at this stage just means perhaps another year in the doldrums after two years of merited success. Nelly’s to blame for this and not particularly the players. A good coach knows when to make the necessary adjustments. The great coaches have an inherent knack for picking up on the oppositions tendencies and make the adjustment in an instant. The same can’t be said of Nelson at all.

tophat ……….

I agree meando

Somehow and one way or another nellie sitting the star in an elimination game has to be more than a disciplinary action from the coach.

Seems a little to me they wanted to see Monta in baron’s place.

Baron gets and is gonna get a LOT of cash and at some point they have to become a real team overall, and they’re gonna need baron’s cash to pay monta and bring in the necessary bodies.

Now me personally, i stick with the HOMETOWN kid who has grown up and matured on the court, is a activist off the court and led your team to this point. He’s still relatively young. I would trade monta and get a couple CAPABLE vets to go with s-jax and baron and make a real run at it.

All they need is a defending/rebounding big man (bienris is a PF and a 6th man in all honesty) and stop this “Hurry, run down and jack up a 3 as QUICKLY as possible. Yes you too PF’s and C’s.” and play a real team offense and defense.

Ok, im done ranting.

But no question there’s some shit in the bay.

Pun intended

Wow, sounds like you’re on top of it too, RIDGE.

Just sounds like a crappy way to treat your star PG if you ask me. I can’t wait until Baron spills the beans. But remember, Baron also had a famous run-in with Byron Scott in New Orleans, which is how he ended up in Golden State.

I doubt the Warriors will move Monta. He’s looks to be the new golden boy of the franchise.

Exactly

I guess they’re done hustlin off baron.

Kinda sucks though.

They just need to get tougher and more offensively responsible.

Half of that is on nelly, if he coached a different style.

I mean any way you cut it monta and baron can shoot and drive and jackson can do it all.

Just pull in the reigns.

Oh well

Sorry i keep coming in late btw

hard to focus lately y’know.

Just handle your business, bro. I fully understand your priorities.

Sports will always be sports …

:)

Re: Baron Davis. Local radio sports guys Dan Bickley and Mike Jurecki were discussing it this morning. Wait, let me backtrack a bit. During the local broadcast last night on FSN Arizona, Gary Bender or Tim Kempton, I don’t remember which, noted that Davis wasn’t his usual aggressive self in the first half. He was settling for jumpers, and wound up something like 3 for 12. Later in the first half, one of them mentioned that he had just celebrated his 27th (?) birthday. They later speculated during the second half if he was injured, since he spent all of it on the bench. Okay, back to this morning. The two local guys were discussing how Golden State had gotten into Phoenix very late after their previous game, after which apparently Davis really HAD celebrated his birthday, and wasn’t in much condition to play. I’d look for either he or Nellie to be gone next year. I believe Davis has an opt out clause, so it may be used. While it will forever be recorded as a coach’s decision not to play BD in the second half, I can’t imagine any current teammates wanting to go to war with him. (Excuse the military reference if so desired). And I wouldn’t blame them. I like a good party as much as the next guy, but the timing couldn’t have been much worse. You’d think he could’ve waited a couple days. Of course now he has several months to get buzzed.

Your sources might be on to something, Ricko.

[It was Baron's 29th birthday by the way.].

Nellie did specifically mention Baron’s need for rest, which appeared more than a little tongue ‘n’ cheek.

And yes, Baron ‘can’ opt out after this summer. The local Los Angeles media has been spot-touting the merits of a possible return to L.A. and backcourt partnership with Kobe all year.

The bottom line is, it is doubtful that Denver will lose to Memphis at home tonight, so I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Baron simply decided to punch his time card early …which is inexcusable if that’s in fact what he did.

In my opinion, Golden State has major personnel decisions on its hands. In this regard, they are trending so much like the Clippers:

Promising year, followed by a breakthrough in the playoffs. Spend a ton of off-season dough on talent, only to suck the following year. After which, blame the coach, then start all over again by unloading a squad replete with disgruntled ballers.

No matter which way you slice the Davis saga, it looks bad for Golden State next year, especially in the jam packed West.

Yeah, I figured 27 seemed a little young for Davis.

You know what I think? Great you all are talking about what a dumb move Nellie made instead of a Suns loss!

Heck, we would like to see Baron Davis and Steve Jackson in a Suns uniform.

Who would we give up? Diaw & Skinner? HA

We play their style of game!

Baron and Stephen might actually be on the move, Tom …

But I don’t know if the Suns have the budget to land either of them. After all, we know Baron will be looking for big dollars and Phoenix’s is now tied to the Big Shaq-tus @ $20 million per annum!

Mean,

So apparently, I can only access LOTL through IE7. I get kicked out when I use IE6 or Firfox.

Weird.

All very worthy selections. I’d like to see a future phenom or a “keep an eye on” selection added to the League in the future.

On a completely individual basis, Jason Richardson had a HUGE year (1700+ points, 235 threes, 100+ steals). Too bad it didn’t produce wins.

Rashard Lewis had a fantastic year, but it will always be tainted because it still falls short of his ridiculous contract.

Josh Smith did his usual thing and was the only player this season to record over 1000 points, 500 rebounds, 100 steals, and 100 blocks.

Other than Dwight Howard, Al Jefferson is the only player this year to record over 1500 points, 800 rebounds, and 100 blocks.

Antawn Jamison and Carlos Boozer did the same, but with over 100 steals rather than blocks.

Even Mike Dunleavy deserves some attention with over 1500 points, 160 threes made, and 80 steals.

And for the record, Steve Blake didn’t start the season with Denver. He signed with the Blazers during the offseason.

Good stuff as always. Can’t wait for the playoffs.

Evening, Showtime!

I don’t know why some people get kicked off with IE6 and some people don’t. I think it depends on what added restrictions your company places on Internet use. I know this to be true because, as it turns out, over 50% of my site’s visitors use IE6 …

Anyway, thanks for the hookup on Steve Blake. I actually knew that but overlooked it. My bad. I’ll make the correction post haste.

As for all your other mentions, I had all but Mike Dunleavy. I’ve been watching his game — he had a few really big breakout games this year –but he still couldn’t crack MeanD’s top ten. Maybe next year. All of your other mentions at least made the Big Board at some point but didn’t manage to stick.

By the way, someone else asked me to add a 6th man category, so maybe I’ll consider your ‘future phenom” and “keep an eye on” categories if I find a way to incorporate it.

Good to see you this evening, bro. It means the world to me.

Hey, do get back more often. I promise to rock the post season.

Best, homie!

8)

P.S. Stupendous comment! I absolutely loved the numbers.

Carmelo Anthony arrested for dunk driving?

Not sure if that would have any bearing on his play on the court other than make him play harder to change a bad judgment call that hurts his image! Sure its not good right now or any time!

Playoff time?

Why would any player wealthy even put themselves in that situation? Call a cab! Hire a nice looking girl to drive you home! Come on!

Young players need to think!

Bet he gets at least one game suspension.

What will David Stern do now to him?

MeanDovine

I don’t know what portends to the postseason. But I do know this as of this juncture, if my man ‘Pop’ can’t right this listing ship then I’m liable to put on my Mae West lifejacket and perhaps bale on ‘em. But I’ll wait to see what Pop’ll do first .

That’s all anyone can ask of the guy as of now.

As to me contributing stuff over at the site, I don’t know that anyone over there knows what the hell is going on. It’s like dealing with a branch of the federal government. No one can give you a plain straightforward answer . And that’s not the way I for one am use to working. Never have done and never will be.

You’ve got to have your ducks in a row and be prepared. Hell, I learnt that in the military as well as in civilian life working inside the dealing rooms of various financial institutions.

tophatal ……

‘Melo made a very bad mistake, Tom.

It’s not his first, so I’m not sorry for him.

He has had more than his fair share of problems, so this is one he could ill afford. I heard his apology, which sounded sincere, but you hit the nail right on the head, “hire a damn cab!”

He’s got a baby and a fiance at home so hiring a girl would have only made matters worse.

I’m sure Stern will hit him where it hurts in due time.

Thanks for commenting tonight.

Looking forward to your playoff commentary.

See you tomorrow, old man.

Much love.

:)

Tophat, I understand.

The problems you list are the reasons I left and created my own blog site here. Too many screwy things were happening over at RSB, very similar to what you’re experiencing now. It wasn’t professional and it was affecting my audience’s participation, as well as a potential sponsor’s patience.

Nevertheless, I hope things get worked out for you guys.

As for your Spurs, they’ve had a brilliant run. Perhaps it’s time for some young blood to give ‘em a run for their money? But you never know, maybe they’ve got one more run in them. I wish your boys the best.

Later, bro.

You know we’re here if you need to vent.

:)

MeanDovine

I find it increasingly irritating that I can’t an answer to the problems. And though I understand that time to time little things crop up that’s beyond one’s control .

This particular incident was aviodable if it’d been dealt with appropriately.

As to the Spurs their inherent problems go way beyond what I thought possible. The core players such as Duncan, Parker and Ginobli are fatigued and when there’s not really another player that can step up to the plate and offser some of that burden then it becomes apparent that they’re in need of help.

I was somewhat surprised that they didn’t delve into the marker to pick up another player. Damon Stoudemire offers the team nothing as he’s not the player he once was.

tophatal …………

MeanDovine

I’ve done a boxing piece that I’ll e-mail you. If at all possible could you put it up on your site after doing the necessary to edit it as you see fit to meet your requirements?

I’ll look forward to hearing from you in due course. However I’ll e-mail you the piece in order for you to review it.

tophat ……….

MeanDovine
Tom

The alleged mistake made by ‘melo was an idiotic one and he knows it hence the apparent apology at this juncture. He saw fit to take a risk and got caught. Would we be saying this had he killed someone ? I can’t condone his actions nor can I excuse them either. Again it’s another sign showing us that ‘melo hasn’t infact matured as of yet . It looks as if he’s still got that kid mentality within him. What’s more perplexing is that he’s now a father and in some respect is seen as a role model to some . He does his best to play the part and then goes out and does something as dumb as this . He ought to wake up and smell the coffee and realize that he’s not a kid anymore . He’s meant to be a man whose got responsibilities to his family and teammates.

tophat ………..

Good comments SHOW but i have to argue on Rashard Lewis.

If not for turkoglu being on that team and carrying them and showing them how to win he would’ve been a colossal failure.

I dont think he’s ready for the clutch time.

regarding Melo, he done did it this time.

When wifey refusing to come get you or send for you?

Yeah, dictator david will give him something to think about no doubt.

And he was looking a little swollen at that press conference, wonder if he had some coke with that yak he was tossin back…

flopp’n flail’n former *chumps
get their panties in a bunch

Jazz are tuff on their floor
but on the road they just can’t score

Houston’s good but with out Ming
I don’t see them with the ring

Denver Nugget’s they can hoop
but their defense is just poop

Hornet’s team is way too young
Championship banner won’t be hung

Cuban’s already filed his complaint
again this year “the Mav’s just aint”

Show time Laker’s say they’re for real
Kobe and the gang won’t seal the deal

It’s Planet Orange’s time to shine
with Shaq in the middle we’ll be just fine

To quote an old saying “shut up and play”
the Phoenix Suns will have their day

LOL!

Bravo, my man!

Most excellent.

Your flow continues to amaze me.

8)

pump-The unbiased sports scribe in me says that if a few things fall the Suns way, they have as much of a chance as anyone. The Suns fan in me says damn, I hope you’re right. It’s gotta happen sometime.

It does, doesn’t it?

PUMP,

Very good Bro !

Creative brain food !

Wow. I didn’t get to see the entire Suns/Blazers game tonight, but I saw enough to know that a few guys who never get off the Suns’ bench can play. Namely, D.J. Strawberry and Sean Marks. D.J. looked like a three year vet out there, handling the ball, directing traffic, playing very solid defense. Marks looked like a viable option as a big man off the bench, like he suddenly thought he was Brian Skinner or something. Unfortunately, that’s probably the last we’ll see of any of those three until next season, barring a blowout.

I’d like to go on, but I’m busy preparing my game face for the second season.

Rick O !

Keep the faith Bro ! The first round is going to be a barn burner ! What a way to start ! The Champs out the gate. Nothing else looked easy either though. I have to think hard who I’m picking in the West ! The East is very easy to me.

I think LA but Denver could up-set.
Anthony has to play hard to get out of dog house ! He will too !

Houston vrs Utah ? Even leaning on Utah….point guard injury ? But Utah sucks on the road.

Dallas vrs New Orleans…..Dallas ! But close. Last week I’d never say this. But New Orleans has dropped off badly in last four games. Dallas has something to prove after last year.

Phoenix of course over Spur’s …But the Spur’s looked ready against Utah.
And darn they have home court. But Suns were screwed last year and Shaq plays well against Tim ! Key control the guards !

I’ll select by Friday after I think about it more !

Just leaning on but still not sure.

Lakers vs Denver…..Lakers but Denver can up-set! Anthony will play his butt off to get out of dog house.

Houston vs Utah …. Utah but close…
hard to take due to road record…still thinking….Houston I want to say.

New Orleans vs Dallas….Leaning Dallas but wondering why? Guess because of what happend to them last year. But I like Chris Paul so much!

Phoenix vs San Antonio….of course my Suns, but could it get any tougher playing the Champs on the road? Shaq & Stat plus defense makes me take Suns.

Plus you guys know I’d never go against them!

Come on Suns! Take us to our first Ring! This 52-year-old has waited on you along time!

Tom
Rick O

Your Suns’ll be welcomed guests in our house . And this time around you’ll be treated fairly and kindly. As to the officiating one can leave that in the hands of the more than capable David Stern . ’cause we all know that he’s got no favorites in this particular dog n’ pony show.

Like he says his officials are of the highest caliber and integrity. And when it comes to their officiating they’re second to none . And we all do believe that don’t we?

tophatal……

tophat-Sounds like a lot of palaver to me. ;)

Mean – This is the first year I’ve followed the NBA in any sort of manner. It’s interesting for me to see your rankings; it helps me know the players better, which, if you ask the Sharks, I need to know. Couple of things, though. You mentioned “hybrid” players, guys who can play more than one position. It seems to me that this is going on in the NFL also, with QB’s who can run, and RB’s who lead teams in receptions, though, I feel this is more of a matter of the system. Do you think that’s true for the NBA? That it’s a system thing? And do you agree that these “hybrid” players are few and far between? I don’t see it happening that specialists will die out. Not everyone can play everywehere. Also, you mentioned that more teams have more white guys playing. As the whitest guy you’re likely to meet, I have to wonder if you think that’s a good thing due to whites being the “majority” of Americans, thus, perhaps, opening the game up to us a bit more?
Just curious. Thanks for all the hard work.

Freak-A-Leak

Rick O
MeanDovine
Tom

Now that the matchups for both conferences have been finalized it’ll be intriguing to see how well adept and adroit many of the teams are. If nothing else these series ought to tell us a great deal about the teams. Especially those with higher expectations . So as they say “Let The Games Begin …And They Will ” .

tophat………..

Rick O

Please don’t tell me you’ve swallowed Webster’s Dictionary? I’ve not heard the word palaver mentioned in years.

And I thought that it was we Brits that were always being scorned when it comes to the use of the English language?

tophatal ……….

Ricko,

Faith, buddy. There is an sign of quiet confidence in the team that I haven’t seen since Barkley was here. If you watched closely last night, you would have seen 3 or 4 new plays run and different line ups in the first half. D’Antoni looks like he trusts his bench a little more.

What I didn’t see was a ref crew that was ready for the play offs. No touch fouls (Gordon on Channing) 3 seconds in the lane on a fast break, ejections that were no where close to being deserved, no call on defenders slapping the backboard on lay-ups, etc. I hope they let the players decide who wins this year or at least make calls both ways.

Sure was fun to watch the bench play the second half last night. They accounted for themselves very well.

Big or small
the Suns do it all

Run and gun
hav’n some fun

Shaq will fill up the lane
put the Spurs defenders to shame

Nash will be pass’n
Hill will be slash’n

The three’s fall like rain
giving the Spurs much pain

Amare will be the man
MVP is his plan

Planet Orange will be best
World Champions is their quest

Suns fans far and wide
let your heart be your guide

Support your team with all your might
the banner and ring are within sight

**”Cheap shot Bob” isn’t healthy
I hope the refs aren’t try’n to get wealthy**

Bruce Bowen’s a punk
when his ego’s in a funk

Amare will have his say
selling posters on E-Bay

Did I get in your head?
cause enough has been said

“Do you feel the tingle?”

peace

Re: Freak (“hybrid” players):

It seems to me that this is going on in the NFL also, with QB’s who can run, and RB’s who lead teams in receptions, though, I feel this is more of a matter of the system.

1) Do you think that hybrids in the NBA are a matter of the system as I believe it is in the NFL?

Freak, it likely is a matter of the NBA’s new slant toward uptempo, less physical, International-style play. The speed of the game has changed, as has the body types and games of players. I don’t see the trend changing back to traditional NBA-style play until we get more true centers back in the game. Right now, guys like Pau Gasol and Mehmet Okur, etc., play a more versatile, multi-faceted game, with the ability to draw true centers like Shaq and Erick Dampier away from the rim. This also changes the dynamics of the position as it makes lane play less physical, and more finesse oriented, which suits International players well.

2) Is it a system thing?

Again, I think it is a system thing, as well as the result of the NBA deliberately trying to grow the game globally in comparison to how FIBA basketball is played. As long as hybrids and hybrid play creates a perceived advantage, it will likely stick around. Unless or until players come along who can dominate the system, e.g., Michael Jordan, thereby making hybrid play less relevant, the league will likely remain where it is headed today, as opposed to returning to a game that primarily revolves around the pivot.

3) Do you agree that these “hybrid” players are few and far between?

I actually see more and more of them now, and many more on the horizon. Again, it’s all about speed and athleticism, etc.

We now have 7-footers who run the floor like guards. Sacramento’s Mikki Moore is an example, so there is an obvious advantage for guys like he and Pau Gasol when being defended by slower, aging centers like Shaq. But the same can be said for the two-guard, small forward, and power forward positions. The guys who play these positions are now so versatile that many of them can play and defend multiple positions, e.g., Lamar Odom, Shawn Marion, Josh Howard, Hedo Turkoglu, etc. This allows coaches to exploit match-ups via to size, speed, and athleticism.

4) Is it a good thing that more whites are playing the game again, and is it due to whites being the “majority” of Americans, thus, perhaps, opening the game up to us a bit more?

Yes, it is a good thing that more whites are playing the game again. Still, today’s game is based more on speed, quickness, and athleticism, so players who bring these attributes to the table are more desirable, which cost traditional specialists like jump shooters their jobs, but this is fast changing, i.e., Kyle Korver, Hedo Turkoglu, etc. These type of players once fell out of favor to players who could get into the lane and to the rim at will. However, with the international-style game, jump shooting and passing are becoming highly desired skills again, as most teams prefer to use systems designed to prevent teams with legitimate interior presence from clogging the lane and/or to defeat the zone. Remember, the zone is still relatively new to the NBA. It wasn’t allowed for a very long time.

With the institution of the zone, it became necessary to once again employ guys who can shoot lights out. Solid jump shooting breaks zones and pulls centers like Shaq out of the lane, thereby opening up the game for slashing, athletic types to operate more freely on the perimeter and in the lane. Also, hand-checking is no longer allowed. This has re-opened the door to slower, less athletic players who only five years ago had trouble making it in the NBA.

I hope I have answered your questions satisfactorily, bro.

Thanks for the visit, and for such great questions.

:)

Its definately the system

MeanDovine

It’s always been the system as that’s what many team’s play is predicated on .

You’ve only got to look at the triangle offense system instituted by Phil Jackson under the auspices of Tex Winter .

It’s something that happens all of the sport’s diaspora and is encumbent on having the right talent in terms of its roster .

The RSB site is now back up and running. So look out for some more pieces from in due course. And as usual, Mean, I appreciate the camraderie and encouragement you’ve not only shown to me but others.

It’s truly appreciated…..you’re one of a kind with great insight on widening variety of sports.

tophatal ………

Toph,
Mean,
Ricko,
Pump,
thedan,
Freak,

Where are your predictions?

WEST ——East

Everyone’s probably waiting for my 2008 NBA PLAYOFF PREVIEW, Tom.

It’ll be up in the morning!

Mean,

I’m going to wait till then too!

I have a rough draft but I’m fighting with changing a series or two still.

One is Houston & Utah!

The other Cleveland & Washington!

Heck, they all look hard!!!!!!

You know who I will pick all the way already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HA

Tom
I’ll let you know later on today once I’ve analyzed the matchups. As it is myself and a bunch of friends’ll be heading up to DC for the next few days to take in the sites and sounds of the nation’s capitol. The one place that I’m really hoping to see is the Vietnam Memorial. I left the girlfriend at home as it’s just me and a bunch of guys on bikes. I’m the only one who’s not riding a Harley. I’m on a rented Suzuki.

tophatal ……..

MeanDovine
Tom
Rick O

If there’s anyone ripe for an upset then it could very well happen between the Raptors and Orlando. As good as everyone feels that the Magic are. I do believe that if they can’t handle Bosh then they could be in for a rude awakening.

But I know in Tom’s & Rick O’s heart of hearts they’d like to see their his Suns down my Spurs. We’ll just have to wait and see at this juncture.

I see how that USA Today are prefacing the fact that should the Finals be between the Lakers and Celtics. Then it’ll be somewhat of a return to the good ol’ days of the rivalry of ‘Bird and Magic’, ‘Chameberlain and Russell’. Whether or not the likes of Bryant and Kobe’ll measure up to those legends aren’t yet quantified or even justified at this time. As they’ve never played against each other in that sort of an atmosphere. Indeed they are two great players. But as of now only Bryant has played in NBA Final. And Garnett has to see the fruits of those labors arise within his domain.

topahatal ……….

Toph,

I had two Harley’s! A 2002 RoadKing and a 1989 Sportster! I sold them two years ago!

You be careful and have a nice time.

Yes, I’m taking them Suns! You have had your day in the Sun! Win, lose or can’t be no draw good luck to you! I know your hoping your Spur’s awake from their season sleep!

Myself, I want your best game and our best game! What a first round series.

Checking all the odds…..Spur’s takers are everywhere! My team is not getting any play in the headlines.

Mean Dovine
Rick O
Tom
All in all it’s not been such a bad day for me on the sporting front at all. My only mishap was in seeing B-Hop lose to my fellow Brit Joe Cazalghe in hard fought split decision over 12 rounds. I don’t know that any of you are actually fight fans.
I’ve a piece up within the RSB forum on the event itself.
As to the Spurs’ OT win. You play until the final whistle or bell tells you it’s all over and not before.
And that’s why I’m now happy. Now if I can only get laid then it’d have all been worth it. I wonder if Eliot Spitzer’s young friend knows anyone in DC ?
That’s why I’ve now
‘Got My Drink n’ My Two Step’
courtesy of Swizz Beatz . You Suns’ fans aren’t too happy at this juncture.

tophatal

Tom
Rick O
Mean Dovine
Mean in particular are you still convinced that the Hornets aren’t the real deal ?

tophatal ……

Where are your first round picks ‘recorded’, tophat? After all, the series have started …

By the way, I picked the Hornets to defeat Dallas. So did Ricko.

Mean D
I hadn’t made any first round picks. As I didn’t really have time to get around to doing them. I’m up here in DC with buddies. We’re taking in the sites up here.
All I can say at this jucture after the OT win by the Spurs…..’I've GOot My Drink n’ My Two Step courtesy of Swizz Beatz.

http://nymag.com/images/2/daily/entertainment/07/08/24_swizzbeats_lgl.jpg

tophatal ……..

Something to say?