Who's the better pound for pound baller, Kobe Bryant or Lebron James?
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BALL IN …

How relevant is salary to performance?  How about salary in comparison to playoff performance?

In our second annual Dollar Menu, let’s take a look at how everyone’s favorite players stack up against one another on the value scale.

Following our previews is a look at what the players who made MeanD’s Big Board will make for the 2007-08 season.

Celtics logo VS. Cavaliers logo  

(66-16)                    (45-37)

Rajon RondoDelonte West

MeanD says:

The Celtics finally ended a series many had them finishing a full three games ago.  However, what started as a runaway for the C’s eventually morphed into a series with potentially catastrophic ramifications for the NBA’s bottom line had Boston lost to the Hawks – the team with the NBA’s worst record in all the playoffs.

Nonetheless Boston’s first round struggles likely gave Cleveland added confidence heading into their much anticipated second round matchup.  With both teams splitting the season 2-2, and neither team winning on the road, it is hard to calculate a clear-cut advantage outside of home court.

Nevertheless, having written much on the evolutionary growth of championship-caliber teams, I have to wonder if the Celtics are ripe for picking by a congealing Cavaliers squad that has been anything but consistent since acquiring Ben Wallace and Joe Smith from Chicago.  After all, the Cavaliers have been here before, having reached the conference finals last year.  But Cleveland has played like anything but the reigning Eastern Conference Champions all season.

Like Kobe Bryant did last summer, though far more muted, Lebron James demanded change from the Cavs front office after seeing several blockbuster trades go down out West.  With rumors abounding that James will opt out of his current contract in two years, Cleveland could hardly afford to stand pat.  Whereas I liked what Gooden gave the Cavs as an interior compliment to Zydrunis Ilgauskas, the team’s listlessness suggested a change in chemistry was needed.  So with Paxson feeling the heat in Chicago as a result of the struggles of the achieving Bulls, a trade that looked like a mere Band-Aid fix was made, and to mixed results.

Historically speaking, the Celtics own a 10-7 playoff advantage over the Cavs, with a 7-1 record at home.  Ray Allen leads all Boston scorers against the Cavs at 23.8 per game, while James averaged a stellar 32.4 ppg.  With the exception of cross-matchups featuring Pierce vs. James, and Big Z vs. Kendrick Perkins, all other matchups clearly favor the Celtics.  Rajon Rondo has been far more consistent for the C’s at the PG spot, averaging 10.6 pps, 4.2 rebs, and 5.1 assists to Delonte West’s 8.3 ppg, 3.2 assists, and 3.8 rebounds.  However, the shooting guard advantage tilts heavily to Allen over Devin Brown who averages only 7.5 ppg on 40% FG shooting, which hardly offsets Allen’s numbers.  However, if Boobie Gibson and Wally Szczerbiak can play big, the Cavs just might be able to nullify whatever Boston gets from Allen, who has a tendency to get lost on offense.

Although hardly a slouch at the SF spot, Pierce’s offensive production never matched that of James in the regular season series, with James outscoring Pierce handily over the four game stretch despite only playing in three of the contests.  Now, having received a rude awakening from the irreverent Wizards in the first round, look for James to take his game to another level.  If Lebron can double-up KG’s offensive production in this series, the C’s could be in store for a battle.

Finally, Zydrunis Ilgaukas enjoyed a huge advantage over Perkins all season, averaging 14.1 ppg, 9.3 rebounds, and 1.4 assists to Perkins paltry 6.9 points, 6.1 rebounds, and 1.1 assists.

So who will win …

As much as I like what Boston has achieved this year in winning 66 games, I must, nevertheless, stand by my theory that winning the NBA title is an evolutionary process that requires a year-by-year progression of steps to finally break through.  Save this year’s Lakers squad, this paradigm fits Cleveland nicely.

Season Series: 2-2

Players on Big Board (rank):

BostonR. Rondo (PPG-8), R. Allen (BDG-6), P. Pierce (MP3-2), K. Garnett (PFC-2)
ClevelandL. James (MP3-1), Z. Ilgauskas (CEO-9/Missed Cut)

MeanD’s Big Board - Boston
MeanDovine - Cleveland

Ricko - Boston


Lakers logo vs. Jazz logo 

(57-25)           (54-28)

Pau GasolMehmet Okur

Ricko says:

The Lakers don’t seem to be a favorable matchup for the Jazz. (Hmm. I said the same thing about the Nuggets facing L.A. Maybe there’s a pattern here). The Lakers may have too many players to rotate down low for Utah to deal with. Ronnie Brewer will do his best on Kobe, with AK and maybe even Matt Harpring taking their shot. But the series won’t be decided as much by Kobe’s numbers as it will by some other factors. First, Gasol didn’t play in any of the four meeting between the teams this season, so a quick adjustment is needed by Utah at a time when they are coming off a tough series against Houston. A tall order, indeed.

Second, what will Utah get from Paul Millsap? A large effort is needed from him to at least somewhat neutralize guys like Gasol and Odom. Without it, the Jazz may be in trouble. But that’s what the playoffs are all about. Time to get to the next level.

Back to Brewer, he had pretty good games offensively against the Lakers this year, which would go a long way in helping Utah’s chances if he can continue that. It would force the Lakers to pay perhaps just enough attention to him to allow Deron Williams to be huge, as the Lakers have no one who can equalize Williams with any consistency. If L.A. is allowed to consistently pick him up right after mid-court, or trap him with a double-team, the Jazz are in trouble.

Like Houston in the prior series, L.A. is one of just four teams to win in Utah during the regular season. Utah will probably need to get a couple wins in L.A. to win the series, and I don’t think game one will be one of them, with the Lakers being much more rested. I know the age-old debate is always half-full or half-empty; are they getting rested or rusty? For me, I’ll take rest at this point in the season every time. After 82 games and four playoff games, some time off is beneficial. Especially considering the Lakers had big scoring nights vs. Utah this season. Look for Utah to be hard-pressed to curb that trend. This is a series where Jerry Sloan may need to call on all of his experience to try to throw the Lakers off their game. Williams and Carlos Boozer should have very good series, and if Utah can somehow get enough help from other sources, their winning the series is not out of the question. Believe it or not, they may need to pound the ball inside on L.A. to free up an occasional well-placed three pointer, while trying to defend inside on the other end while staying out of foul trouble. The BIGGEST FACTOR IN THE ENTIRE SERIES may be Mehmet Okur. If his inside-outside game is in peak form, he can be one of the few players in the league that teams don’t have an answer for, and the Lakers will have to scramble on defense more than they would like. But Okur must be consistently good on offense, and a factor defensively as well.

Many things will have to go Utah’s way for them to win this one. While I think they have sufficient talent, the Lakers’ depth and recent time off will play large factors. The Jazz may be fighting an uphill battle right out of the chute. If they can somehow pull one off today in the opener, it would be a huge shot in the arm.

It seems that the strength of the Lakers and Jazz lie in slightly different areas, so it could be a classic matchup. But due to the slight advantage in depth and the rest the Lakers just received, I’ll take L.A. in six games.

Season Series: 3-1

Players on Big Board (rank):

Los Angeles - K. Bryant (BDG-1), L. Odom (PFC-7), P. Gasol (CEO-3)
UtahD. Williams (PPG-2), A. Kirilenko (MP3-Honorable Mention), C. Boozer (PFC-4), M. Okur (CEO-7)

MeanD’s Big Board - Lakers
MeanDovine - 
Lakers
Ricko - Lakers


THE CARROT

O'Brien Trophy

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PREDATORS
(VVS-1, All-World Game)

Predator

Rabbit

Rabbit

L. James (Akron) - $13,041,250

Fox

Fox

K. Bryant (Philadelphia) - $19,490,625

Wolf

Wolf

C. Paul (Winston-Salem) - $3,615,960

HUNTERS
(SI-2, Suspect Arsenal)

Rambo (Sylvester Stallone)

T. Parker (Bruges) - $10,500,000
P. Gasol (Barcelona) -
 $13,735,000
D. Howard (Atlanta)$6,061,274
D. West (Teaneck) - $10,650,000
K. Garnett (Mauldin)$23,751,934
D. Williams (Parkersburg) - $4,010,640
T. Duncan (St. Croix) - $19,014,188
M. Ginobili (Bahia Blanca) - $9,074,811
M. Okur (Yalova) - $9,000,000
L. Odom (Jamaica, NY) - $13,248,596
P. Pierce (Oakland) - $16,360,094
P. Stojakovic (Belgrade) - $11,664,000
T. Chandler (Hanford) - $10,500,000

BLOODHOUNDS
(Flawed, AKC Certified, Questionable Pedigree)

Bloodhound

T. Prince (Compton) - $8,675,620
R. Hamilton (Coatesville) - $10,000,000
H. Turkoglu (Istanbul) - $6,373,000
C. Boozer (Juneau) - $11,593,816
C. Billups (Denver) - $10,000,000
R. Lewis (Pineville) - $14,884,951

R. Allen (Merced) - $16,000,000
R. Rondo (Louisville) - $1,229,280
R. Wallace (Philadelphia) - $12,540,000

KENNEL CLUBBERS
(Well-trained, Knows More Than a Few Good Tricks)

Kennel Clubbers

DOG POUND
(Needs to be More Integral)

The Dogpound

GRAVEYARD
(R.I.P.)
(Non-ranked.  Final rankings dependent upon end of post season)

R.I.P.

D. Nowitzki (Wurzburg)$16,360,094
A. Stoudemire (Lake Wales)$13,762,775

S. Nash (Johannesburg)$11,375,000
T. McGrady (Bartow) - $18,257,750
A. Jamison (Shreveport)$16,360,094
A. Miller (Los Angeles) -
$9,600,000
A. Iverson (Hampton) - $19,012,500
C. Anthony (New York) - $13,041,000
J. Kidd (San Francisco)$19,728,000
S. O’Neal (Newark) - $21,000,000
A. Iguodala (Springfield) - $2,804,889
M. Camby (Hartford) - $10,000,000
J. Howard (Winston-Salem) -
$9,5000,000


NBA

Mike D'AntoniAccording to ESPN’s Marc Stein, the signals suggesting that Mike D’Antoni and the Phoenix Suns will soon part company are only getting stronger.

Suns president Steve Kerr told the ESPN Radio affiliate and Suns flagship station last week that D’Antoni would not be allowed to speak to other teams regarding any vacancy. NBA coaching sources reiteratated to ESPN.com again Sunday that D’Antoni feels he can’t work under the conditions proposed by Kerr and owner Robert Sarver. So if even Suns management is now convinced that reconciling with its coach is no longer possible, giving D’Antoni an opportunity to find a new job might be the easiest way for Phoenix to move forward without worrying about the two years and $8.5 million left on his contract. As opposed to firing D’Antoni and paying the full amount or trying to work out a buyout, allowing him to land a new job and thus a new salary would offset whatever the Suns owe him.  D’Antoni met with Sarver and Kerr for more than two hours Friday, with Kerr saying afterward that they all wanted to take a few days to digest what was discussed. Kerr stuck to his earlier pledge that he and Sarver remained hopeful of convincing D’Antoni that the parties’ philosophical differences could be resolved.

But sources close to the situation have maintained for days that D’Antoni does not want to continue coaching in Phoenix if he must implement the changes suggested by his bosses, which include increasing the time spent practicing defense and a more stern approach with younger players such as Suns forward Amare Stoudemire and guard Leandro Barbosa.

ESPN.com reported last week that Chicago has emerged as the most likely landing spot for D’Antoni if he leaves Phoenix. The Bulls also want to interview recently fired Dallas coach Avery Johnson and have already spoken to Mark Jackson and Rick Carlisle, but Johnson would appear to be D’Antoni’s only serious competition with the Bulls given Jackson’s status as the consensus favorite with the Knicks and Carlisle now widely expected to replace Johnson with the Mavericks.

EUROLEAGUE

CSKA Moscow wrote another chapter in its illustrious Euroleague Basketball history by defeating Maccabi Tel Aviv 77-91 on Sunday night for the 2008 Euroleague title – its sixth continental championship crown and second in the past three years. CSKA’s victory over Maccabi at the Community of Madrid Sports Palace in the Spanish capital moves the Russian powerhouse into second place on the all-time list behind only Real Madrid’s eight crowns. Trajan Langdon was named Final Four MVP after posting 21 points on 4-of-5 three-point shooting and 7 rebounds to lead six CSKA scorers in double figures in victory. J.R. Holden added 14 points, Matjaz Smodis, David Andersen and freshly crowned Euroleague MVP Ramunas Siskauskas scored 13 points apiece and Theo Papaloukas added 12 to give the Russian champs another title to add to their trophies from 1961, 1963, 1969, 1971 and 2006. CSKA also defeated Maccabi in the 2006 final in Prague. Head coach Ettore Messina, who before the game announced that he had re-signed for another season in Moscow, won his fourth Euroleague title, moving into a tie for second place all-time with legends Pedro Ferrandiz, Alexander Gomelskiy and Bozidar Maljkovic, all of whom trail only Zeljko Obradovic of Panathinaikos. The game was a close affair for the first half, which ended with CSKA ahead only 41-42. CSKA started to pull away thanks to its defense in the third quarter and a 0-10 charge to start the fourth settled things early. Will Bynum paced Maccabi with 23 points, Esteban Batista added 14 and Terence Morris 13 in defeat.

Trajan Langdon MVP - CSKA Moscow, EB Champion 2007-08 - Final Four Madrid 2008 One of the steadiest players of the decade, Trajan Langdon of CSKA Moscow, was selected Final Four MVP in a vote of media after leading the winners with 21 points and 7 rebounds. Langdon’s choice as the Euroleague Final Four MVP tops an outstanding career in the competition. At age 31 – he turns 32 on May 13 – Langdon has won two Euroleague titles and made it to four title games in five years in the competition. Langdon previously won it all with CSKA in 2006 and reached the title game again last season. He also played in the Euroleague final with Benetton Treviso in 2003.Born in Palo Alto, California, and raised in Alaska, Langdon is a cold-blooded shooter, who had one of his career-best performances on Sunday night. Langdon fired in 2-for-2 two-pointers, 4-for-5 three-pointers and 5-for-6 free throws on his way to 21 points, leading six CSKA players in double digits. Langdon added 7 rebounds, an assist, 2 steals and 7 fouls drawn for a 33 index, the highest ranking in a Euroleague final since Anthony Parker had 34 in the 2004 title game.

After four years shining at Duke University, Langdon joined the Cleveland Cavaliers for three years before signing for Benetton Treviso en route to becoming a European basketball superstar. In his six seasons in Europe, Langdon has also won the Italian League with Benetton in 2003, the Turkish League with Efes Pilsen in 2004 and consecutive Russian Leagues with CSKA in 2006 and 2007. He has a chance to win another one this season. Langdon is at the prime of his career and his MVP award adds even more value to an incredible career in European club basketball.

THAT’S GAME …


* Player in red is reigning champ
* Players is gold won regular season individual category rankings

Photos:
Bryant-James: Ed Crisostomo/The Press-Enterprise
Bryant-James embedded: NBAE/Getty Images
Player photos: NBAE
T. Langdon: Euroleague.net

Credits:
Euroleague: http://www.euroleague.net
Predator: Released June 12, 1987 by 20th Century Fox

Rambo: Released October 22, 1982 by Orion Pictures Corp.
http://www.dophotoshop.com/angry-wolf
http://www.actden.com/GRAP_DEN/clipart/images/rabbit.jpg
Fox: G and C Corsi (California Academy of Sciences)

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76 Responses to “Lord of the League: Pound for Pound”

CP3

CP3

CP3

Good stuff on the euroleague

who knew langdon was still doin it up

MeanD
Rick O

This playoff series between the Celtics and Cavaliers looks very enticing indeed. But I for one believe that this time around they won’t be as complacent as they were with the Hawks.

I fully expect the Celtics to clamp down hard on the necks of the Cavaliers and hold ‘em there and close out this series expeditiously. They can ill afford to be have a repeat again with regard to what happened with the Hawks.

In doing so it’d be at their peril!

tophatal ………….

Ace!!!

What more can be said about CP3? His game has been unreal.

Let’s see what the Spurs do to counter his prolific game. Can’t wait.

Also, glad you liked catching up on Langdon. This was news to me as well.

Holla back!

8)

Top,

I’m split on this one. I’m taking Cleveland in an upset, but my board says the pick should be Boston.

We shall see.

:)

I’ll have to save my rant about Utah for later. They lost. Nuff said for now.

I had wondered a few times what had happened to Langdon. It’s nice to know he went on to a great career instead of wasting away somewhere on an NBA bench. They sure could have used him in Utah over the past couple of years.

Maybe if Utah squeaks past LA, the revenue-milking bastards will let them enjoy it for more than 5 minutes…what do you think? (OK, maybe just a mini-rant)

TEST

Once again, post looks great, Mean. I’ll get back later when I have more time. On the road right now.

Reading & typing while driving isn’t as easy as I thought it would be . . .

OK, since i know i can post now

LMFAO @ mike d’antoni and how he even is getting interest

“But sources close to the situation have maintained for days that D’Antoni does not want to continue coaching in Phoenix if he must implement the changes suggested by his bosses, which include increasing the time spent practicing defense and a more stern approach with younger players such as Suns forward Amare Stoudemire and guard Leandro Barbosa.”

No, i will not teach or make my players do anything on the defensive end of the floor!!! Nor will i expect any maturity out of them on and off the court!!!!

How could you possibly be interested in hiring this guy?

ESPECIALLY if you’re the knicks?

LMFAO!!!!!!

Lakers in 7
Hornets in 7
Cavs in 6
Pistons in 5

I dont see how the celts beat the cavs if wally has found his jumper.

Shooter,

Your boys have their hands full with the Lakeshow, but all is not lost. It’s time for Utah to use their vaunted home court advantage. That ought to at least get ‘em to 2-2 should they lose the next one in L.A.

And I concur wholeheartedly on Langdon …

Hey, call Sloan to see if maybe they can get special permission from the league to add him to the Jazz’s

Thanks for checking in this afternoon.

Again, I apologize for the my late post.

Thanks, ricko!

Hey, nice breakdown of Lakers-Jazz.

Although I’m sure Shooter aint to happy you picked L.A. to win.

Talk at’cha later.

Be safe …

RIDGE,

What? Are you testing my blog fr a dial tone …

j/k

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As far as D’Antoni is concerned, the entire situation is dicey. I’m hearing he really likes Chicago’s opening, but Deng and Gordon might be headaches if you ask me. Both are great guys but I don’t think they’ll take too kindly to getting run out of the gym under D’Antoni’s run ‘n’ gun system.

And the Knicks can do a whole lot better than Coach D. Please tell me they’re not serious.

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Also, your picks are duly noted.

Holler back!

Unacceptable lateness young man (I sound like a damn school teacher). Seriously, there have been some problems all over.

Boston in 7 – add that to my Detroit in 7, Lakers in 6 and New Orleans in 7.

If D’Antoni finds a way out the Suns better grab Avery if they can. I don’t think Mark Jackson’s going to be a great coach. Never liked him as a leader when he played (with all the Mark Jackson’s, we’re talking about the point guard, right?).

Cleveland does pose matchup problems for Boston – if the proper Cavs team shows up. If they don’t then forget what I just said.

LOL, Dan, you’re funny.

Man, if you only knew how many times I almost quit on this post. Brutal!

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Your picks are duly noted. Great job on your first round picks, by the way.

MeanD’s Big Board = 7-1
Ricko = 7-1
Miz. B. Haven = 7-1
thedan = 7-1

There were several @ 6-2, including my personal picks.

And a few at 5-3 …

We won’t burden the others.

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I’m ambivalent about Jackson, particularly with no prior coaching experience. The Knicks is a tough job. But many feel he’ll do a great job if he gets it.

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With Cleveland, it’s always about which team shows up.

Hate to say it, but after such an EPIC season the playoffs have been a downer.

Not sure why, just seems like they lost all their momentum.

They’re gonna go get Game 2 in LA. If for no other reason than to make Ricko nervous about his picks.

RIDGE,

The East has had some noteworthy edge, but the West has been one blowout after another, save one or two games.

Problem is, we were all so bought into the hype that we thought the Suns and Denver would still be playing right now …

Uh, what had happened was …

It’ll get better.

I hope …

Shooter,

If anybody knows how to make adjustments, it’s Sloan, so you might be right.

Plus, I got another great sign for you. The Lakers were a bit off kilter in Game 1 because Kobe took the lion share of shots. if he does it again, I guarantee you, Sloan will have game-planned for it.

Word mean, by no means did i think ‘enver would win the series….but a 4 game PWNING?

SMH

But what none of us knew was that the coach was gonna have his power forward checking the premier scoring guard in the league 35 feet away from the basket.

Wonder if/when we’ll ever see such genious again.

LOL! Yeah, that was insane. LOL!

Who knew George Karl and Mike D’Antoni were twins in thought?

Wow, K-Mart stickin’ Kobe …

Mean, the incredible part of that whole Kenyon on Kobe deal is that i was actually arguing how dumb that was with some guys over at fantasyshark.net

Seriously, would anyone here like to defend Karl’s decision of putting one of his best interior defenders, rebounders, and shot blockers on a shooting guard thus making your underbelly even softer? It wouldnt have been smarter to just have kenyon inside to help and have the guards route him to the shot blockers?

Hey Guys,

Like the post. I think the Celts and the Cavs are going to be banging the boards. That one may go to game 7. I’m gonna go with my dad’s fav and say the Celtics.

Please tell me Chicago isn’t really considering D’Antoni? Say it isn’t so. That would be ludicrous.

I think that Mark Jackson will prove to be a good coach. He was a pretty good floor general during his playing days and seemed to have a high basketball IQ. It’s the role players who make the good coaches. When will you guys listen (smile)?
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Ridge,

Your comment about D’Antoni, was HILARIOUS.

Good luck to everyone and their picks for the second round.

Thanks for the kind word, Miz B.

Celtics-Cavs should be a barn burner!

And, yes, it’s true. D’Antoni is said to be leaning toward Chicago. Let’s hope he has very bad breath. That way, the farther in D’Antoni leans, the farther the Bulls may pull back.

Thanks for today’s visit.

:)

Shooter-between you and me, I was pulling for Utah in game one. It’s a law here in Arizona that if you’re a Suns fan, you’re forbid from rooting for the Lakers. And I have no idea where MeanD came up with the prose under my name above, where I supposedly have the Lakers winning. I would never spew such drivel. Come to think of it, that may have been my alter ego.

I figured if Utah could get the first game after coming off the last series so recently, it would be a HUGE momentum swing. And if they had hit even half of their open looks in the fourth, I think the Jazz would’ve won. That was a good chance for them, as I’m sure Phil won’t let the Lakers get hammered on the boards two games in a row. But they still have a good chance in the series.

Ricko,

That’s right, blame me.

:)

Mean-Really thought the Magic were going to win game two earlier tonight. I hate to go the cynical card, but was it me, or did the Pistons get some beneficial calls down the stretch? I thought Jameer Nelson got shortchanged a bit, for one. He played a solid game. Could have been the difference.

Still like my pick of the Magic, though.

Nice of the Hawks to show up for Game 7 against Boston… and nice of the Magic to show up at all so far while in Detroit.

At least there are some good reads on the NBA out here… as expected. Later Mean… later RickO too… be good.

Ricko,

Detroit definitely got some favorable calls, including a 5.22 seconds shot clock stoppage which gave them extra time to nail a crucial 3 …

Orlando should bounce back at home.

KP!!!

What a pleasant surprise. Hope you’re feeling better? So happy to see you, bro.

Hey, the Hawks gave Boston a run for their money, and Orlando will give Detroit one before all is said and done.

Keep the faith … and keep us in mind. We’d love to see you more often at THE LEAGUE.

Have a great night, bro.

Much love,

Mean

:)

Can I say it again? NEW ORLEANS IS LEGIT!!!!!!!

Screw experience, they are going toe-to-toe with the best team of this time period.

But, the big test will be how they handle themselves in San Antonio. Regardless, there is no fear in this Hornets team and all they are doing is picking up where they left off in the regular season when they kept winning big games.

I STILL LOVE THIS GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OMG, chicago is gonna hire d’mustasce!!!!

Mean and Misbehaving, PLEASE explain?!?

LMFAO!!!!!

How is that gonna work?

Anyone, PLEASE?!?

I’ll believe it when I see it, RIDGE, but if reports are true it looks like it’s gonna happen.

Chicago has always prided itself on defense, so I don’t understand this one. Looks like Paxson is going for regular season wins over championships in order to secure his job.

Sell out!

Ridge, your guess is as good as mine. Only God knows how the heck that will play out. All I know is that it needs to be tabled FOREVER. I don’t think the Bulls will take to D’Antoni’s run n gun style of ball. Like Mean said, Chicago is all about DEFENSE. If they pull the trigger on this move, look for Pax to be making an exit after next season, because it aint gonna work.

MeanDovine

I don’t think that the Celtics’ll be that complacent this time around. I don’t expect ‘em to toy with the Cavaliers . But I do expect that this’ll be a competitive series. I’ll take the Celtics in 6!

As for the Spurs Hornets’ series. That’s becoming a friggin’ nightmare for us Spurs’ fans. It’s like watching lambs to the slaughter. CP III is having his way with the team and there’s not a damn thing we seem to be able to do about it. Scott is outcoaching Pop in every facet of the game! And I for one would never have thought that possible at this juncture.

They’re negating Duncan’s strengths right off the bat and Parker and Ginobli aren’t so much as getting a sniff of the lanes. That’s how good the Hornets look. This series may well be over and as Spurs’ fan it pains me even to say it! If they can’t turn things around in San Antonio then that’ll be it for this year. You heard it here first remember that.

tophatal ………….

LOL @ the bulls being about defense!!!

When did that happen?

I know that may have been skiles PHILOSOPHY, but c’mon seriously?

LOL

Man, i need this to happen.

Sorry guys, but watching the failure would be too entertaining for me to pass up.

you know how much i cant stand the stache.

And im not overly fond of paxson either.

MeanDovine
Rick O
RIDGE

I’ve a new NBA post up titled Experience Trumps Youthful Exuberance ……Normally! It deals with the unfolding saga and series between the Spurs and Hornets. Let me know what you think as to the merits of the piece? I’ll provide a link to it for you below :

http://realsportsbloggers.com/tophat/
22008/05/06/Experience Trumps
Youthful Exuberance Normally!

I’ll look forward to reading your comments as and when you’re ready.

tophatal ………..

RIDGE,

Defense has always been the Bulls calling card — dating all the way back to the franchise’s beginning. It was also what the team prided itself on during its six championships. Hell, Scottie, MJ, and Rodman regularly made All-Defense first team, and Rodman won I believe two defensive player of the year awards. The Bulls rarely if ever gave up 100 points during their heyday.

Check the record, bro.

Hey guys,
Just wanted to take a second to let you know. I’ve taken on a new position here at work and have very little time to partake in posting. It seems that every time I try, I get interrupted and can’t finish what I want to say. Just know that I’m watching and will spout off when ever I get a chance. Maybe after I get this department cleaned up I’ll have more time.

Keep it real!

props

No problem, pump!

We’re always happy to hear from you if for no other reason than to let us know you and yours are doing okay.

We’ll see you whenever we see you.

Best of luck in the new position.

:)

MeanDovine

Now that the NBA writers have finally seen fit to grace Bryant with the league MVP award. Ought we to view it as their form of making amends for having ignored him previously?

All of a sudden is this their way rectifying the previous snubs?

He’s been in the league a decade and for a large proportion of those years he’s been its best player by far! Finally there seems to be some semblance of reasoning from within their pious but yet halcyon foreboding domain.

tophatal …………

MEAN, im not arguing the bulls PREVIOUS defensive efforts during the championship era.

But to even mention defense with the bulls since then is laughable.

Stop playin dude.

RIDGE,

The Bulls played great defense under Skiles. I believe they ranked among the top defensive teams in the league with Skiles as coach. The Bulls problem was consistent scoring, as well as the team’s over reliance on jump shots. Not defense.

Again, check the records.

In fact, Paxson is said to be getting cold feet about D’Antoni because of his lack of a defensive approach/strategy.

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Remember, the Bulls swept the Heat out of the first round of last year’s playoffs. They did it with defense.

Hey man, dont be lobbing shots at wade getting swept!!!

It was cause of shaq and walkers fat asses they got swept, not the bulls defense

LOL @ ben gordon and defense in the same sentence!!!

I heard the cold feet thing too, got a sneaky feeling that D’stache is playing his way back to europe

Ego’s sink ships….

BULLS SUCK!!!

I think the pistons should still beat orlando without billups, but if he’s out or ineffective they’re done in the conference finals.

What do you think?

Good luck, pump. I don’t know about you, but I always liked trying new positions.

Skiles was here in Phx. for awhile. He’s tailor-made to be an assistant if you ask me. I could be wrong, and we’ll see what he does in Milwaukee, but if it doesn’t work out there, I’ll be surprised if he gets another head coaching job. Frankly, I’m surprised he got the Bucks job so soon after getting fired at Chicago.

Ridge-For all the foibles D’Antoni has, there is enough blame to go around for the Suns’ failures. Ownership has been more concerned about the bottom line that winning a title. He was a bit handcuffed by the consistent change in personnel, most of which were downgrades. I for one think the Bulls would be a good fit for D’Antoni.

And I picked the Magic to beat Detroit even with Billups. If he’s out for even a couple game, the Pistons are in big trouble.

Billups would be a huge loss. If his injury lingers, it just might give the Magic the series.

As I’ve told GR8 on countless occasions, I’m not impressed with the Pistons post season run thus far.

Nonetheless, I picked Detroit to at least get to the Conference Finals, so let’s see what they can muster sans Chauncey.

I’m curious to see how Popovich adjusts for game three tonight. Been awhile since they’ve been in this position. I’m telling ya, New Orleans is gaining confidence game by game. Look out.

New Orleans is a terrifying matchup right now.

There is NO stopping paul from what he wants to do, and his shooters are wetting the nets

it is the most mindboggling robbery EVER that kobe got the mvp over him this year

As exciting as this season and all the moves were, the bullshit and politics are getting to me.

How the &$#@ does marvin williams get 1 game for a hard foul where he TRIED to protect the guy as best he could but kidd gets NOTHING for face slamming a guy.

Dictator David, youre losing us…

Ridge-Now you know how Suns fans felt last year. ;)

MeanD has no comment …

Seriously though, why should kobe be rewarded with the MVP just for growing up and not acting like a spoiled selfish little bitch anymore?

Its ridiculous that we should be kissing his ass for becoming a productive member of society and his team.

SMHD

The award says “Most Valuable Player.” While I would have given it to Paul, I don’t have a problem with Kobe winning it. He just puts them over the top and into contender status. Paul does as well.

Personally, I’ve never put a lot of stock in the awards that are voted on. I think you could dispute nearly every one of them in any sport with a valid argument, so it all comes down to subjective opinions.

Rick O

The Hornets are really taking it to the Spurs right now and teaching ‘em about the game of basketball. And how it ought to be played. And that’s something that I didn’t envision once the series started.

But it’s now come to fruition and our backs are against the wall in more ways than one.I’ve a post up within the RSB site titled Experience Trumps Youthful Exuberance Normally …….!! Let me know what you think as to the merits of the piece? I’ll look forward to reading your comments.

tophatal ………..

Ridge-Now you know how Suns fans felt last year.

Left by Rick O on May 8th, 2008

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!

OWNED

*VAPORIZES*

Please stop with the phoenix crap.

The better team won.

GOSH!!!

“MeanD has no comment” Baaaahahahaha!

When does Donaghy”s trial begin?

The winner will be….

42 minutes. double overtime. playing against Shaq and Stoudemire. ZERO fouls.

Hornets in 5

Whatever you say, Ridge. But you are the one who brought up Stern’s inconsistent decisions, not me.

Wait, I forgot it’s not about fairness, it’s about correctness.

. . . and now that you’ve opened up this can of worms, I’m just getting warmed up . . .

Ok, ok.

If ANY of you can argue this point, i will go away.

At least until monday when im scheduled to return anyway.

Do you really think the league would’ve WANTED the boring san antonio spurs to win yet another championship rather than the exciting Phoenix suns, their flagship and most marketable team (at least at that point)?!?

WHY ON GOD’S GREEN EARTH WOULD THEY INTENTIONALLY SCREW THEM, THUS COSTING THEMSELVES?!?

I thought not.

Shut the FRONT door chumps!!!!!

That’s right, pump …

No comment!

It’s all water under the bridge.

Besides, if I start ‘itching I’ll never be able to stop.

It has nothing to do with the Spurs or the Suns, Ridge. But here’s a point I find quite ironic. Why is it when Marvin Williams get a punishment you feel Jason Kidd should have got, you criticize Stern, but when someone brings up the fact that Stoudemire and Diaw were suspended while Bowen and Duncan, who was inside the three point line during play IN THE SAME GAME, were not, you deem it as whining?

Again, it has nothing to do with Stern wanting the Spurs to advance over the Suns. It has everything to do with his inconsistent set of rules, which you brought up. But I suppose when you’ve convinced yourself that your officials are “the best conditioned, most well-trained in the world,” as Stern has done, the delusion has reached a dangerous level. I’ll bet even Tim Donaghy gets a laugh out of that one.

It is “water under the bridge”. Fact is Donaghy admitted he had money on the Spurs and was on the court. Fact is that the “league” did nothing about “several refs known to have gambled” and fell short of explaining to what depth/type of gambling was done.

Are we to be so naive as to believe Donaghy was the only one? That’s what the “league ” wants us to believe and as a fan of the game I want to believe, but common sense keeps knocking on the “what if” door.

How many were guilty of tax fraud?

Why does Scooter Libby keep poping up in my head?

Ridge, as a fan of the game you can’t possibly think that the Suns didn’t get screwed last year. Like Mean says, there’s nothing we can do about it, but that doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.

holla

Like I said before pump. A rule is a rule. Sometimes.

I honestly think that stoudemire and diaw should NOT have been suspended seeing as they did not actually get involved with the farkas. Its a ridiculous rule.

I also honetly think that the spurs were the better team and would’ve won anyway evidenced by them winning the clinching game with them having their full roster.

“Although the Suns were able to control most of the game without the suspended players, even taking a 16-point lead on the Spurs at one point, the Spurs came back to win an incredibly close Game 5. Stoudemire and Diaw returned for the Suns in Game 6″

I honestly think the suns simply havent been good enough or have been mustached out of winning.

I honestly think you phoenix buffers should shut the hell up, grow a pair and face the facts.

Ginobilli has 3 rings.

How you love that?

Have a nice weekend.

One more outburst like that Ridge, and I’ll have to “T” you up.

As to whether the Suns were good enough or not last year, we’ll never know, will we?

Regarding facing the facts, I have long ago.

Funny how you mention “Ginobili” and “three rings” in the same sentence. The way he flops around out there like he’s been shot, he does remind me of a circus.

BTW Ridge, I’ve been meaning to ask you, who’s your team?

lol

strike up the band

. . . and send in the clowns

aaaahhhhhhh, all this scratchin’ feels good. MeanD doesn’t know what he’s missing.

Come to think of it, he’s probably sitting there with a big bowl of popcorn taking it all in. And watching us drive up the comment numbers.

If I know Mean he’s going to write some sort of comment that says what he feels and yet remain neutral at the same time. It is a political year ya know.

Darko. For the love of God you forgot Darko. $6.5 Mil this past season. 7.2 PPG. That’s real value.

I don’t begrudge any man for earning a living by whatever legal means, even if it is morally objectionable. The players don’t generally force a franchise to pay them these high salaries. The market dictates someone’s proportionate worth, unless your name is Darko.

All that said, who in my mind is the best bang for the buck? Steve Nash.

Whose the least? Uh, there’s this guy named DARKO.

Darko, certainly Moondog. Wonder how many front office people in the the league are glad they didn’t grab him when they had the chance.

Can you say everyone?

Yes. No kidding. He makes Jon Koncak’s contract look good.

Mean,

Maybe I’m dumb or I just don’t get here as much as I should, but I don’t understand your Predators, Rabits and what-nots….

Freak,

The Carrot that all are chasing is of course the Larry O’Brien trophy. The players are then ranked in order of the recent level of their game. By recent I mean over the last one to two weeks of play.

‘Predators’ are top tier, ‘Hunters’ just a notch below, and so on. It’s MeanD’s way of ranking the players, as he does weekly during both the season and playoffs. I’ve found he has an uncanny ability to do so with reasoning to back it up, and he puts a lot of time and effort into it. You can read the “Lord of the League: Primer” link in the upper left corner of this page for a little more insight.

Ricko,

Thanks for explaining things to Freak.

Good job!

Again, Freak, please read the primer if you need further clarification.

And, if by chance your lack of understanding has more to do with Lebron being the rabbit, he will be falling quite a ways down come Monday’s rankings having lost two straight to the Celtics. However, when these rankings were done, Lebron was the master of the NBA domain. My how things change in a mere week.

Again, the link to the Primer is located at the top left hand portion of the site under PAGES.

Something to say?