Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, and Kevin Garnett look none to happy about the Celtics poor performance against the Detroit Pistons in Game Four of the Eastern Conference Finals during the 2008 NBA Playoffs at the Palace of Auburn Hills on May 26, 2008 in Auburn Hills, Michigan.

BALL IN …

Much has been made of the home court advantage in these playoffs, with road victories coming at a premium in both conferences, albeit more so in the West.  But after a brazen heist in Boston in Game 2 to steal the home court away, the Detroit Pistons were not so wresting in Game 3, losing to the Celtics 94-80, allowing Boston to reclaim home court. Then, in typical topsy-turvy fashion, the Pistons rebounded in Game 4 to even the best-of-seven series at two apiece in a game that was much closer than the score indicates.

Antonio McDyessAntonio McDyess was the star of the show, leading the Pistons with 21 points and 16 rebounds on 8 of 14 shooting.  It was easily the 33-year-old McDyess’ best playoff performance in more than a decade. “You only have so many opportunities, and they’re limited, especially for me,” McDyess said. “I’m at the end of my career, and I just feel like leaving everything out on the floor.”

In helping Detroit’s cause, McDyess routinely beat the Celtics to loose balls, defending them with strength and quickness while making most of his shots.

As for the Celtics, they’ll need a far better effort from their big three if they are to right the ship heading into Wednesday’s Game 5 in Boston.  The combination of Garnett, Pierce, and Allen shot poorly all night as did most of the Celtics, but the NBA’s top-seeded team stayed in the game thanks in large part to shooting a disparate number of free throws.  Boston made 32-of-39 free throws, while Detroit made 20-of-26.

Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce and Ray Allen combined to miss their first seven shots, finishing 11-for-38 from the field.

Allen said it was a disappointing performance from the trio.

“We pride ourselves on making our teammates better and allowing them to make us better,” Allen said.

Garnett and Pierce both scored 16 points and Allen had 11.

Rajon Rondo is still struggling with his decision-making, causing Doc Rivers to go to the seldom used Sam Cassell who provided little help, going 0-3 from the field in 17 minutes of play with no assists.  The rust showed in Cassell’s usually clutch jumper as he missed badly on two of his three attempts.

As for Rondo, the Pistons attacked him at both ends of the court, preventing him from getting off to a strong start.  However, his troubles are nothing that a little home cooking shouldn’t cure?  Sure Rondo is still young and relatively inexperienced, but he has shown far better ballhandling and decision-making in the past than he has of late.  And his offense hasn’t been much better on the road either, going 2 for 8 last night while dishing out only 4 assists.

The Celtics were able to stay in the game by making 17 of 20 free throws in the first half while Detroit was 5-for-9.  Boston had more points from the line (32) than from the field early in the fourth quarter when it pulled within 67-62.

“We didn’t play well, but we hung in there by getting to the foul line,” Rivers said. “Then, we just couldn’t make plays.”

Richard Hamilton had 20 points, Rasheed Wallace scored 14 and Billups added 10 for Detroit, while reserve Jason Maxiell filled in well when Wallace got in foul trouble, scoring 14 points and playing tough defense on Garnett, notably on a come-from-behind block on a dunk attempt.

But Billups sealed the victory for the Pistons with his 3-pointer with just under 3 minutes left, making many forget his offensive struggles due to a sore right hamstring.

Detroit improved to 5-0 in games following losses in the playoffs, while the Celtics fell to 1-7 on the road and 0-6 when trailing after three quarters.

Game 5 is Wednesday night in Boston, then the Pistons will host Game 6 on Friday night. If necessary, the Celtics will be back at home Sunday night.


Manu’s Game Found, Spurs Climb Back In Series

San Antonio Spurs guard Manu Ginobili (20) of Argentina reacts after scoring during the first half of Game 3 of the NBA Western Conference basketball finals against the Los Angeles Lakers, Sunday, May 25, 2008 in San Antonio.

While the home court advantage has taken a bit of a backseat in the Eastern conference finals, it still holds firm in the West.

For whatever reason, it seems that any home court advantage comes down to shooting percentage. In game two of the WCF, the San Antonio Spurs shot just 35% from the field and from behind the arc, while the Los Angeles Lakers shot 55% from the field and 28% from three point range, but don’t let that three-point percentage fool you. The Lakers still made nine more field goals while taking sixteen less attempts. But in game three, one of San Antonio’s necessary weapons, three-point shooting, returned. So did their defense of Lamar Odom and Sasha Vujacic, two more keys for the defending champs.

The Spurs also lost the first two games at New Orleans in the previous round, but won in seven. And as was the case there, many were writing off the Spurs as being too old, too slow, and too predictable. Those all may prove to be true, but we’ll have to see it to believe it. I’m quite sure neither the Hornets nor the Lakers are buying into it. Somehow, the Spurs managed to send Kobe Bryant to the free throw line only once in both games two and three, after Bryant had made a living there in prior playoff games. Kobe still had a great shooting night in game three, but many of his baskets were inconsequential. In addition to getting Kobe to the line more, look for the Lakers to get into their offense earlier in possessions in the upcoming games. Too often in the second half of the last game they got caught up in the easy way out, throwing it to Bryant and hoping for the best. That may work late in a tight game, or against a poor team, but very seldom here. At the same time, the Lakers’ ‘x’ factor in this and all series, Lamar Odom, must improve his offensive consistency. As I’ve stated many times, he is the key to the Lakers’ success. He was as much of a difference as any Laker in the previous series. Though L.A. leads 2-1, Odom’s been down, up, and down in the first three games. He needs to be a factor, which he will be if the Lakers do indeed start their offensive motion earlier in the shot clock.

In contrast to game two, the Spurs held Sasha Vujacic in check in game three. Vujacic is another huge factor in this series. In the first two games in Los Angeles, he found his rhythm and his stroke, and the Spurs were significantly damaged because of it. But he scored just four points on 1-5 shooting and two free throws Sunday night. He is young and cocky. Can he rebound from a poor performance?  Maybe he and Odom can get going together. 

In game three, the Spurs had just three players in double figures scoring (as did the Lakers, it should be noted), with the biggest being Manu Ginobili who scored 30 points. Whether or not his ankle was still bothering him proved to be a non-factor, as he hit five 3s in the first half and forced the defense to play him, opening up the lane for Tony Parker and Tim Duncan. I’ve long maintained that the way to beat the Spurs – which, granted, is easier said than done – is to ‘allow’ Duncan to get his but don’t allow San Antonio any open shooters. The Spurs’ three-point shooting has always been a must for their success, and they are at their best offensively when opponents are forced to scramble and subsequently pay for putting too much emphasis on controlling Duncan.

In the fourth quarter of game three, Kobe Bryant once again tried to take matters into his own hands and shoot the Lakers back into the game. He was successful for a brief period, but the deficit was simply too large this time; which goes back to my point about L.A. getting into their offense earlier in each possession. Expect them to push the ball upcourt more than they have in the first three games, giving them more of the twenty-four to work with. If not, they could well be playing into the hands of the Spurs; a deliberate, half-court game that allows San Antonio to square up and neutralize Odom, Pau Gasol, and to some extent, Bryant.

Look for more Ime Udoka and less Robert Horry from the Spurs, and more Jordan Farmar less Derek Fisher from the Lakers. I know Horry and Fisher have been part of championship teams, but the time is now. There is no tomorrow.

NBA

Joakim NoahFormer French Open champion Yannick Noah doesn’t think his son Joakim’s arrest for possession of marijuana and having an open container of alcohol is a big deal.

Joakim Noah, a forward for the Chicago Bulls, was arrested Sunday in Gainesville, Fla., after an officer spotted him on a sidewalk holding a plastic cup. During a search at the station, officers found marijuana in his pocket.

“I don’t understand all that fuss for just drinking a beer on the street,” Yannick Noah said Tuesday at the French Open.

The elder Noah won the title at Roland Garros in 1983. He created a sensation a few years before when he told a magazine writer he smoked marijuana.

Joakim Noah was released after signing a notice to appear before a judge — standard procedure for such offenses. He could face up to six months in jail and a $500 fine for the marijuana charge.

“I talk to him every day on the phone,” said Yannick Noah, who was at Roland Garros on Tuesday for the dedication of a walkway named after him. “He’ll soon come over to France to see me.”

Joakim Noah led Florida to consecutive NCAA titles before being picked ninth by the Bulls in the NBA draft last year.

PGA

Phil MickelsonIf you didn’t catch the Crowne Plaza Invitational golf tournament in Fort Worth over the weekend, you missed some classic commercials with Phil Mickelson and “friends.” Phil’s amazing iron play out of trouble wasn’t bad either.  On Sunday, Phil overcame a reappearance of Way Left Lefty to make birdie for a 1-stroke win at Colonial.

MORE NBA

Also, if you haven’t caught any of the last two playoff games-game three in the West and game four in the East-on ESPN radio, Mike Tirico and Hubie Brown are simply outstanding together. Check them out if you get a chance, even if it means turning down the TV volume. It’s worth it.

And with that …

GAME!


THE CARROT

O'Brien Trophy

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PREDATORS
(VVS-1, All-World Game)

Predator

Rabbit

Rabbit

K. Bryant (Philadelphia) - It’s your world. Lead it!

Fox

Fox

Wolf

Wolf

 T. Duncan (St. Croix) - Wolves don’t whine …

HUNTERS
(SI-2, Suspect Arsenal)

Rambo (Sylvester Stallone)

T. Parker (Bruges) - Predator ranks await you
P. Gasol (Barcelona) - Must nullify Duncan’s numbers

K. Garnett (Mauldin) - When at the rim take the shot
R. Hamilton (Coatesville) - Without you Detroit’s done
T. Prince (Compton) - As reliable as they come

BLOODHOUNDS
(Flawed, AKC Certified, Questionable Pedigree)

Bloodhound

L. Odom (Jamaica, NY) - Inconsistency is your middle name
P. Pierce (Oakland) - You’re better than this
R. Wallace (Philadelphia) - Has lost former edge?
M. Ginobili (Bahia Blanca) - Working your way back

KENNEL CLUBBERS
(Well-trained, Knows More Than a Few Good Tricks)

Kennel Clubbers

C. Billups (Denver) - Playing through it admirably

DOG POUND
(Needs to be More Integral)

The Dogpound

R. Allen (Merced) - Can’t handle ECF’s pressure?
R. Rondo (Louisville) - Needs decision-making classes

GRAVEYARD
(R.I.P.)
(Non-ranked.  Final rankings dependent upon end of post season)

R.I.P.

D. Nowitzki (Wurzburg) - Leadership is as leadership does
A. Stoudemire (Lake Wales) - Must develop complete game
S. Nash
 (Johannesburg) - Best days behind you?
T. McGrady
 (Bartow) - It’s no longer on you …
A. Jamison
 (Shreveport) - Uncanny, yet still unaccomplished
A. Miller
 (Los Angeles) - Talent is still unrecognized
A. Iverson
 (Hampton) - Leopard couldn’t change his spots
C. Anthony
 (New York) - Time to grow up.  Like yesterday.
J. Kidd 
(San Francisco) - What/where now?
S. O’Neal 
(Newark) - Perhaps it’s time to walk?
A. Iguodala 
(Springfield) - Develop a jump shot or bust
M. Camby 
(Hartford) - It’s been a good career
J. Howard
 (Winston-Salem) - The constant gardener …
D. Williams (Parkersburg) - Predator of the first degree
D. Howard (Atlanta) - With a little more seasoning …

M. Okur (Yalova) - Inside or outside, which is it?
C. Boozer (Juneau) - So much expectation, so little execution

L. James (Akron) - Demand help or walk in opt-out year
H. Turkoglu (Istanbul) - Great season, average post season
D. West (Teaneck) - Future is bright indeed
T. Chandler (Hanford) - Use summer to round out game
P. Stojakovic (Belgrade) - Use summer to find your jump shot
C. Paul (Winston-Salem) - Patience, your time is coming


* Player in red is reigning champ
* Players in gold won regular season individual category rankings.

Photos:
Celtics: D. Lippitt/Einstein/NBAE via Getty Images
Ginobili: AP Photo/Eric Gay
Noah: John Starks/Chicago Daily Herald

Credits:
AP:
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Rambo: Released October 22, 1982 by Orion Pictures Corp.
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http://www.actden.com/GRAP_DEN/clipart/images/rabbit.jpg
Fox: G and C Corsi (California Academy of Sciences)

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62 Responses to “LOTL: Home Improvement”

Just to clarify, Joakim was drinking cognac. And none of it was a big deal. Ask Josh Howard.

LOL, Lefty!

Actually, I heard Josh was supposed to be standing lookout but slipped around the corner to take a hit when the cops spotted Joakim.

Noah was a problem early on this season with his mouth and now we know why. The weed gave him the courage to speak out.

Look for the Bulls to be very aggressive in trying to ship his arse elsewhere.

I’m not sure Boston’s “when it doubt…kick it out” offense is going to get it done against Detroit.

I wonder what kind of appetizers one might find at the Noah family reunion in France?

I don’t know about you, but I think the playoffs could use a little more whining towards the officials. It’s especially admirable to see someone like Duncan continue with the crying…given that he has been flopping around in this league for over a decade. Yet just like Mutombo, Rasheed Wallace, and countless others…he was wrongfully accused for fouls he did not commit.

I’m starting a charity fund.

Great post.

What’s going on with the Celtics? If they keep dragging these series out like this, they’re gonna get caught. They need to quit playin’ around and get the job done.

Please somebody help Ray Ray find his game. What’s up with him man? Is the problem that he’s usually at home during this time of the season watching it on t.v.? He needs to get his game together. I know Rondo is young and still needs some grooming, but his passing skills SUCK majorly. He makes some bonehead decisions.

I’m so glad to see San Antonio acting like the contending champions. Manu FINALLY is back. Thank God. He and Tony Parker were worrying me there for a minute. I guess it’s nothing like having your back against the wall in a must win situation.

Joakim Noah is an idiot. He talked waaaaay to much smack this season to be a rook and now this. Send his @$$ on the first thing smokin outta the Chi. Good bye and good riddance.

MeanDovine

Perhaps we can get the Tim Allen character from the aptly named tv program to help the Celtics out of their woes?

Over complacency and poor play definitely had a part to play in their poor performance.

McDyess’ play belied what the Celtics claim what they’re about. Can you imagine how embarrassing the result might’ve been had Billups been fully fit and up to his usual formidable self?

Rivers had better get his players back on track before the Pistons get that bit between their teeth and ride away with the series.

The Lakers are less no less vulnerable at this juncture but Odom had better get himself physically and mentally attuned. If not then their chances’ll be somewhat slimmer against the Spurs even with the 2-1 lead at this juncture.

They had no answer for Ginobili and I for one would prefer now for Parker and Duncan to really get in sync’ with their teammate rather than us seeing them having to contribute piece meal through the series.

tophatal ……

Shooter!!!

Love the Duncan comments. You should hear my wife get on the guy. Has he EVER committed a foul?

Geez …

Actually, we know what’s on the menu at a Noah family reunion: roughage …

Boston will get it done against Detroit if for no other reason than the Pistons are offensively challenged and Boston has the home court.

Great to read your comments this morning, bro.

Miz. B.,

I think what we’re seeing with Boston is the result of being a newly assembled team built for a championship run. Against Orlando and Atlanta their new nucleus worked, but against a seasoned team like Detroit the lack of chemistry is catching up to them a little bit.

I feel you on Joakim.

Hey, word is Chicago is leaning toward Beasley as the No. 1 draft pick.

Excellent analysis, Tophat.

Sounds like you’re on top of these games, bro.

The Celtics should iron out the wrinkles at home, but it is disturbing how inconsistent they are playing.

RickO, Big Meany!Nice work.

Mean, in regards to your comments in the Tank earlier about the refs whistling a major player in the first6-7 minutes for a couple of fouls…you gave Perkins as an example from last night. Would you be so kind as to provide a few others? I haven’t caught this “trend” yet (only in parenthesis because I’ll wait for you to prove it). Thanks fellas!

Thanks, Freak!

Actually, Freak, I did list the names of others who have found themselves strapped with Perkins foul trouble fate.

Rasheed Wallace …
Ray Allen …
Chauncey Billups …
Derek Fisher …

etc., etc., etc.

For more proof, simply check the game logs. The trend has been happening all playoffs long.

Morning,

Hope all had a great safe weekend. I got a couple rounds of golf in but spent most of my time fishing for trout. Glad to say they were hungry and made for very tasty meals. Per my agreement with mama, no TV for me, no phone for her, when we are camping and my radio fell into the lake when I hooked into a 5 lb German Brown on 4 lb test line. (almost as good as sex) Needless to say, I didn’t have the 411 on the games this weekend till I got home and checked the box scores.

What I saw was inconsistencies by all the teams to score. 13 to 19 point quarters aren’t what you’d expect from playoff teams. My guess is that the bench play is what’s causing this. It is allowing the other team to catch up with mismatches offensively or create better defensive match ups that allows the other team to catch up. Coaches need to re-evaluate their substitutions. I say this not knowing what the foul situation was at any particular time, which could blow my observations out of the water. Still, if you look at the box scores of all the games, the team with 4 consecutive quarters in the 20 to 30 point range per quarter, won.

Hooray for my guy Phil. Watch out because he usually strings 3 or 4 tournaments together.

Noah is the Williams of the NBA. If my memory serves me correct, he had a similar problem at Florida.

Hubie is not one of my favorites. Seems to try to make everything “cut and dry” when clearly it’s not.

If the Laker’s win tonight, I don’t see much hope for the Spurs to come back from 3-1.

Enough chit-chat, back to work!

holla

Afternoon Pump,

I used to be an avid fisherman too. Actually, my stepfather was. I just tagged along. Caught mostly every kind of fresh water fish you can name:

Blue Gill, Trout (various), Sturgeon, Stripper, Sheephead, Crappie, Walleye, Northern Pike, Large and Small Mouth Bass, Perch, Spoonbill, Gar, Catfish (various), etc.

Fished mostly in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Illinois …

My stepfather also fished all over Minnesota. Caught a few Musky.

Glad you hooked a big one.

Your assessment of the benches is pretty accurate. Detroit’s bench has been playing very well, but Boston’s regulars have been inconsistent.

It also seems the refs take away whatever momentum the winning team has coming into the next game by whistling a key player for two quick fouls early in the first quarter, but that’s been going on all playoffs long.

I don’t buy Mickelson getting on a roll. Talk about inconsistent.

Noah is toast, or should be.

I actually like Hubie, but I understand what you’re referring too. It unnerves me too.

Agreed on the Lakers.

mean,

Are you trying to tell me that the refs are determining the out come of the games? Who would of believed it?

Oh yeah…Phil is so inconsistent that he’s been one of the top 3 players in the world for the last 10 years. Making millions. We should all be that inconsistent. I know he has his “off” rounds but that’s golf.

I have done all kinds of fishing also. One of my favorite trips was to Alaska for King Salmon on the Kenai River.

peace

I find Hubie Brown outstanding all the time.

Boston v. Detroit has been a back and forth rough series so far. Very compelling.

I hope the Spurs tie things up so we can have a great finish to that series as well.

After reading what Noah’s dad said, Joakim has probably gone to bed every night thinking Marijuana is absolutely fine to smoke – illegal or not. Goes to show that any father or mother can tell their kid something and they will believe it. As long as they think its right in their mind why would they think otherwise, right?

Great work again boys…

Pump,

When my guy is Tiger, Phil is inconsistent. So love Phil all you want, especialy if being one of the top in the world swims your boat.

It’s No. 1 I’m after.

Hell, had Tiger been playing Phil would have lost, even had Tiger not won.

:)

The refs determining the outcome of games. Never!

:(

Your fishing trip to Alaska sounds dreamy. I envy you …

td,

You know I love Hubie. Hell, I actually wrote a lengthy profile on the guy while at Fox Blogs. I should actually re-post it here.

Dead on regarding Noah’s parents. It’s a wide open speculation, but likely on the money.

MeanDovine

I think one has to be analytical more than using one’s emotions when it comes to these games.

The Lakers took it to the Spurs tonight. And we weren’t able to contend with them physically or mentally.

And that was inspite of Barry shooting the lights out of the ball like a gunslinger.

My own thoughts are that this team’ll have to be broken up. We’re no longer athletic enough or physically adept in dealing with teams such as the Lakers!

So now Pop’ll have to deal with the rebuilding process alongside Peter Holt and the rest of the Spurs’ hierarchy and coaching staff.

tophatal …….

The Spurs certainly have some pieces to move and pickup as well, Tophat …

Although the series isn’t over, it would take a catastrophic injury or worse for the Lakers to give this one back. But the Spurs have had a brilliant run. They simply ran out of legs.

Appropriately, I’ll let you put your boys to rest.

Any venting or remarks you want to post, please feel free. We’ve enjoyed your support of the home team. You lifted them up with exuberance and critical analysis.

Whatever happens, I hope we have you around for the duration of the playoffs.

Best, bro.

MeanDovine

To say I’m disappointed would be an understatement. But I knew the run would come to an end. But what has disappointed me the most is the very fact that during the season we didn’t go out and try obtain a younger set of legs on this team.

Experience is one thing but in terms of building for the future Udoke is nowhere ready for the big time as of yet. Whilst with Parker we’re seeing the best in him. Ginobili still has a lot left in the tank.

But I for one do believe that Duncan at best may well have no more than another year in him. Mentally and instinctively he’s still as good as anyone out there.

But no longer is that real big physical presence there.

Old soldiers never die it’s their spirit that lives on to fight other battles that others’ll ensue along the way.

tophatal …….

Whew. Finally got to check in. I’m in France right now. Probably can’t stay long, we’ve (Shooter and I) got a pizza coming. Got the munchies all the sudden. He’s minding the door.

I’ll never forget McDyess in his early days with the Suns. I used to get downright giddy watching him, and repeating ” . . . and he’s only 24!” Of course, he went to Denver, and neither he nor the Suns were the same for quite some time.

Maxiell played very well in game four. He’s one of the back-burner keys to that series. Loved the block on Garnett, but almost had a heart attack that no foul was called. Clean block I thought, but, well you know. It IS the NBA.

Nice comments in your Big Board assertions, Mean. Yes, what the heck IS Sheed doing these days? Planning a fishing trip?

Also loved your Big Board assessment of AI and ‘Melo. Dead on, if you ask me.

And of Okur. I think he’d answer, “Can I do both?” Uh, sure you can. How far has that gotten you though?

More early game foul trouble; being a Suns fan, I noticed it with Shaq and Amare as well. Glad you brought that up. With Amare, it even goes back to last year.

pump-U.S. Open, here he comes. Torrey Pines is Phil’s to lose. Hey, look at me! I’m standing on a limb!

Thanks to all who stopped by.

Though I picked S.A. to defeat the Lakers, I think the no call at the end of game four warrants no criticism from Spur fans. None. But I do have two quick questions. First, why is Robert Horry in the game late rather than Udoka? C’mon Pop. If Horry’s not bodychecking anyone, what good is he? I overestimated your intelligence, coach.

Secondly, why is Joey Crawford officiating a Spurs game when there is an obvious history there? C’mon Stern. Haven’t you learned anything?

Don’t know when the officials’ contract is up, but it’s time for a new crew. They need to go. Hopefully they’ll take Stern with them.

Ding-Dong! Oh, gotta run. I’ve got more, but the pizza guy’s here!

Ricko,
Did you learn to speak French in the 30 minutes while waiting for your pizza?

Gi..no…show!! Very good analysis by Collins last night in that even though Barry took up the scoring slack of Manu, he doesn’t get the and one with the added fouls that Manu gets from driving the lane. I thought Phils comments at half were something that needed to be said. I wonder if the refs were watching.

I expect the Celtic’s to win big tonight, which doesn’t play well in that I’ve taken the Piston’s to win the series. Rondo is the key. If the Piston’s pressure him into bad decisions then they could get this game.

mean,
My trip to Alaska was enhanced by meeting and having a few beers with Jim Kick and Larry Csonka. They were there filming one of their Alaska Adventure films. I’d post a picture of my catch while there but I don’t know how.

Ricko – I watched the Lakers-Spurs game tonight and I remember now why the NBA doesn’t do much for me. The Spurs went to the line like 26 times before the 4th last night…and NOT one time in the 4th. I think the last time I saw a Spur at the line was Ginobli at the end of the third and the announcers said the same thing. And on the last attempted shot by Spurs Fisher was all over the guy. NO CALL. Inconsistency DURING the games by the officials is horrible. I understand the flow of the game thing and all of that other stuff…been around sports my entire life…but the inconsistency in the NBA is too hard to take. On top of that you have an official with “a history” as you put it with the Spurs. Doesn’t make sense. The interview with Kobe after the game was…well…he is a smug one isn’t he? No foul…no foul…I coulda shoulda done this but I didn’t so you know…! But that is how it is…to the victor go the spoils!

gcoach-Unfortunately, this is the time of year we are all reminded how terribly inconsistent the officiating is in the NBA. I stated somewhere on this site about a week ago that even if the calls even out, it still upsets what should be a level playing field, and that’s never a good thing. For example, in addition to the no-call on Fisher last night, it looked like Kobe traveled with about 15 seconds left. It also looked to me like Odom fouled Parker as well as goal-tended. And how could all three officials miss the fact that the ball hit the rim on Kobe’s shot, which should have reset the shot clock when the Lakers inbounded the ball. And I’m tired of the “the officials shouldn’t decide the outcome” line. Don’t they decide it just as much by not calling what should be called?

You know, I was thinking earlier-the last time I saw decent, consistent officiating in the league was when the officials were briefly on strike and they used replacements early in the season about six or seven years ago. New blood with no agendas or pre-conceived notions of anything. I remember how frustrated some of the players were getting because things like traveling were being called and ‘automatics’ like fouls called on drives were not.

I’ve really had enough of Stern and his crew. And you are a perfect example of why it is broke and needs to be fixed. To a knowledgable fan like yourself, the game has little to no credibility.

pump-Oui.

Congrats RICK O!!!!

Are you happy now?

Crawford finally screwed us for real.

The so called conspiracy has been repaid.

What a bunch of friggin crap!!!

Here, let me jump in the air and plant my ass on your shoulders and see if they call a f-in foul.

SMFHD

gcoach, I understand your frustration …

RIDGE, I understand your frustration …

Pump, again, your Alaskan trip sounds like one I would have enjoyed immensely.

Thanks for dropping by all …

See ya next time!

:)

Ricko,

As much as I feel for Spurs fans regarding the last non-call of the game, I feel equally bad for Lakers fans who had to see themselves reduced to a last play of the game scenario to begin with.

The refs are skilled at using early fouls to dictate the pace and flow of the game. In fact, they are pros at it. That in each and every game at least one, if not two, key player/s from the team with all the momentum is predictably hit with two early fouls is bogus. It’s so commonplace that I can literally script a game from beginning to end.

From my perspective, had that game been called straight-up — sans Fisher’s and Odom’s three first half fouls — the Lakers would have blown the Spurs out.

I’m done ragging on the officiating. After all, my doing so won’t change anything.

Mean Dovine
Rick O

This series is all but over bar the shouting. The only way that things’d change as of this juncture would be if there’s divine intervention from up above.

And as of now I believe that they’ve got more important issues to deal with rather than of the outcome of a basketball series.

As to the officiating we’re once again seeing the inconsistent consistencies of the NBA referees.

They’ll interject themselves into a game at times at the most inopportuned of moments.
I don’t think that I can put it anymore succinctly than that as of now!

tophatal …………

Damn, thought i could get a rise out of Rick but he’s not even in the country.

Disappointing. Travel safely guys.

Yes Barry was fouled, but that was a good non call. He didn’t DRAW the foul, and that means alot.

Stick a fork in My Manu. The spurs are done.

Pop made alot of questionable personnel moves in this series, but in his defense he is SEVERLY undermanned against this particular team.

They’re too well coached and too young and fast for him to get his overaged team past, big 3 or not.

Ginobili, Duncan, and probably parker as well were all gassed from carrying that under-legged team at different points in the year.

Horry (yeah, im saying it lol) Finley, Barry, vaughn, Stoudemire-Gone

Bowen- Bench

They have to get some young legs there, and with $20 million to spend i suspect they will.

They need a younger horry, and a taller and more offensively gifted bowen.

But they’ll be right back at the top of the conference next season undoubtedly.

Not too sure where phoenix will be.

Phil putting larger players on Ginobili wore him down alot.

Pop should’ve just let kobe and ginobili gun away at each other instead of putting bowen on him, but oh well.

He does have 4 rings.

And ive got jack, lol

Uh no, Ridge. Not happy at all. Why should I be happy that David Stern is ruining a great game right before our eyes? Unfortunately for you, now that it affects your team, you have a different outlook on it. No matter how it’s sliced, the officiating is atrocious. BTW, it wasn’t Crawford who screwed you. It was whoever the genius was that assigned him to the Spurs game in the first place, as I mentioned earlier. It’s time for a ‘Stern’ housecleaning and some new whistle-blowers.

Mean-Well said. I’m way past the point of being tired of hearing garbage like “the calls even out in the end” or the stars get the calls because “they’ve earned it.” And my personal (un) favorite, “the officials shouldn’t decide the game,” which is a thin, gutless disguise for saying ” to be on the safe side, don’t blow the whistle at the end of a big game.” Since those who say the last one don’t want officials deciding the outcome of games, why even have them at all? Hell, let ‘em play and call their own, playground style. Think that might also put an end to flopping?

Like you, I’m done talking about it. Same Stern, different year.

Ridge-I said it earlier in the series, and I think it’s making me look pretty good now. Less Horry (or no Horry) and more Udoka would’ve served the Spurs well. Horry’s main weapon, the outside shot, left him long ago. Apparently, so has his checking ability, his second biggest weapon. His presence on the court has the Spurs in effect playing four on five these days.

Whatever rick, insult horry all you want.

The reason he was on the court instead of udoka was because udoka is not big and strong enough to guard odom and he’s not ready for prime time.

PERIOD

And for the record, the spurs are NOT my team.

Im a ginobili fan.

Since you’re such a big archive and word for word (You said it!! i saw it!!) guy think you can remember that?

Go…damn i dont know who to root for now.

I hate kobe for making me turn against my team.

Maybe if they win this chip i’ll begin to forgive him.

Or maybe the spike lee movie will make me remember that he really IS black and start getting his back again.

But probably not lol

Didn’t mean to insult Horry. (Well, not this time anyway). He’s just a bad matchup for the Lakers. Come to think of, many teams are now.

No offense Ridge, but Horry isn’t capable of playing Odom very well either. But Kurt Thomas may be able to help out matching up with the Lakers’ size. Fifty-seven seconds playing time in game four? Hmm. Actually, Odom really didn’t do much until the fourth quarter. I’d try Oberto more on him, maybe, leaving Duncan on Gasol and throw Thomas on Radmanovic some. But wait, that would give SA fewer outside threats, which they must have to be successful.

Oh hell, I don’t know. But I guess Pop has four more rings than I do, too. Don’t know if he has the answers or not. But it’s now or never for them, so we’ll see what changes he makes. I look for something significant, though.

“Here’s a handoff to Billups over the right side – - tackled by Pierce after a gain of about four.”

Guess I’m watching the wrong sport. Thought I was watching basketball.

Damn, I could rant for a half hour. But what good would it do. I’ll say this about the officials. There consistent.

Every game I watch, they stink up the joint.

Game got a little “chippy” last night. Not sure Boston wants to go there. Piston’s are more experienced at that too. Still say Detroit will win the next two.
Look for the Laker’s to close it out tonight. That is if the refs allow them to.
So nice of the league to say it was a foul after the fact. Welcome to a Sun’s fan’s world. Spur’s look worn out.

“Here’s a handoff to Billups over the right side – - tackled by Pierce after a gain of about four.”

BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!

That was awesome, straight WWF style

LOL @ no flagrant being called.

SMH

I stated on the big board before the series that the spurs lacked an answer for odom. Phil is killing pop with the matchups. Pop just doesnt have the legs to run with the lakers.

This year.

Horry 2 years past his final days. He could be useful for spot duty(10 minutes a game or when a hard foul is needed) but to expect him, or thomas, or barry, or finley, or vaughn, or stoudemire to actually be able to run with a team like the lakers come post season was EXTREMELY short sighted. I guess they wanted that cap space this summer at all costs. And it may have cost them a repeat.

Duncan, ginobili, and parker have all taken turns during the season carring the team through the other’s injuries.

They’re gassed.

P.S.- If you look in the background of the Fisher foul, you will see Horry ready to BELT that game winning 3 right in odom’s eye, if only barry didnt want to be the hero and passed him the damn ball.

Ricko — TOUCHDOWN, Billups!!!

LOL …

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Pump, pump, pump, pump it up!!!

Keep the predictions coming.

Although I have to admit, the Celtics lack of chemistry and the Pistons pressure full-court defense is starting to weigh heavily on Rondo, Cassell, House, and Boston. Still, I think the C’s are good for one more win. Then, against the Lakers, they’ll be more free to relax and roam as the Lakers defense is hardly in the category of the Pistons.

So let it be written. So let it be done …

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RIDGE!!!

Glad to see you finally starting to come around.

Stick with the big dogs, bro. We’ll carry you to a high ideal.

LOL!

8)

mean,
Sorry but I don’t see it unless they mail in the 6th game and rest up for the 7th on home court. McDyess wasn’t a factor last night and still Boston barely held on for the win. Sheed was in foul trouble all night too. Detroit’s bench play is far superior and Rip is pissed. You heard anything about his arm (elbow)?

So let it be challenged. Let it be proven… lol

Pump,

Can’t argue with you, bro. Boston looks a bit out of sorts under the intense pressure of Detroit’s defense. However, I don’t expect Detroit to shoot lights out from 3-point land again either.

As for Rip’s elbow, it looked like a nerve went bad or he got hit on the funny bone. He was wearing a sleeve so it is something that he has been dealing with prior to last night’s incident.

Here’s the latest on Rip:

Detroit All-Star Richard Hamilton strained his right elbow in the final seconds of Boston’s 106-102 playoff victory over the Pistons on Wednesday night. X-rays were negative.

“It’s sore a little bit,” Pistons coach Flip Saunders said after the Celtics took a 3-2 lead in the best-of-seven Eastern Conference finals. “We’re going to have to wait and see how it is [Thursday] and how it is in 48 hours.”

The Pistons must win at home Friday night to retain a chance to go to the NBA Finals. A seventh game, if necessary, would be in Boston on Sunday night.

Hamilton, who scored 25 points, was hurt with 8.2 seconds left and was replaced by Lindsey Hunter with Boston leading 102-101. He left the arena with his arm in a sling.

“He got a little bit of, I think, hyperextended in there on the rebound on that one defensive sequence that we had,” Saunders said. “He was great again tonight, especially in the last three quarters. Hopefully he’s going to be ready to go for us.”

Hamilton leads the Pistons in the series with 22.2 points per game.

Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press

Thank you o’wise one. Looks like he’ll be fine. My gut still says Detroit. Boston has played a lot of games just to get to this point. Not sure how much is left in the tank.

Remember;

The man who gets the most satisfactory results is not always the man with the most brilliant single mind, but rather the man who can best coordinate the brains of his associates.

Pump, Boston is that close to getting back to the nba finals for the first time in 20 years.

EVERYTHING IS IN THE TANK!!!!

I think they’ll finish.

The Lakers will (If they’re smart, but phil is hard headed)run, and run, and run the spurs out of staples the playoffs and their championship reign.

I was discussing with a friend yesterday that one of the reasons the celtics will dispatch the lakers is without bynum they have NO answer for perkins as they will want gasol on kg i assume and odom is not strong enough to do anything with perkins in the post. Imagine my non suprise to turn the game on and see him PWNING the pistons frontline.

I love me sometimes.

Pump, who the hell are you … Confucius?

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RIDGE,

I love me too, but probably not as much as u love u …

“Oh Lord it’s hard to be humble…When you’re perfect in every way…”

LMAO MEAN!!!

Okay, Mr. Perfect …

I cleaned up your missed contraction. You used “your” when you should have used “you’re” …

Let’s pretend what I did to clean you up didn’t happen. That way, you’ll still be perfect.

:)

PSA

Just a reminder you are ‘racing’ with GGW.
The first race has started (in that other place)

pardon the interuption back to your regularly scheduled round ball stuff……….(grin)

Thanks, dear.

I’m headed to Fox Blogs now.

There I said it … FOX BLOGS!!!

Whew, what a relief.

Yeah but, girl’s dig imperfection. Makes them feel superior.

“I can’t wait to look in the mirror, cause I get better looking each day”

“To know me is to love me, I must be one hell of a man”

“Oh Lord it’s hard to be humble, but I’m doing the best that I can”

So ends the lesson….baawaaahahaha

Wait, I thought it was girls dig “long balls”, or something like that …

LOL!

Ah, nevermind …

Love your N-R-G today, bro.

Sounds like the Bulls are shopping Hinrich. Guess we know who Collins wants at #1. Let’s see, Kirk and Luol Deng to Phx for Diaw, Bell, and Barbosa. That way, the new coach will be forced to play A. Tucker and DJ Strawberry more.

Hey, a guy can dream, can’t he?

I’d like to join in on the self-love fest going on here, but I picked the Spurs, so I’m going to have to lie low for awhile. Not looking good. It will take a major effort for three straight games for them to win. Not likely since, as Ridge stated earlier, Phil is getting the best of Pop right now. But with Pop re-upping and their cap situation somewhat workable for next year, look for them to retool and make another run.

ridge,

Perkins? Your basing the Boston success on Perkins? If Rondo keeps lobbing passes above the key they will have to depend on….Casell?, no, House? lol

I think the 2-3-2 in the finals works best for the Laker’s no matter who they play. Their speed and defensive pressure and rotations will nullify any size advantage other teams might have. Besides, Turiaf and Walton have fouls to give.

Damm man…your making me support the Laker’s! Knock it off!

pump-Spurs/Lakers not a good series to watch if you’re a Suns fan, is it?

RICK, LOL @ a phoenix fans dream!

The collins hiring is very intriguing in the admission by the front office that they’re clueless and once again need his direction. That’s hilarious.

I think he can have the same impact that hubie did in memphis teaching the young players they have. But its a 2 year program at most. I hope all parties realize this. If they draft rose i dont see how they sign and keep gordon instead of hinrich. But that’s just me i guess.

Pump, perkins is getting his job done.

Btw, whats wrong with supporting the lakers?

Oh, the saying you’re looking for is:

“Chicks dig RIDGE”

LOL!!!

Chicks dig RIDGE?

Por que?

Yo tengo guebos grande, claro.

Dang. Clicked on Spanish by mistake.

I’ll fix it and be back, hopefully.

Yeah, and hopefully the spurs will be back next year and be able to beat the suns. Again.

My life as a basketball fan is becoming terribly conflicted…

What the hell kind of middle name is “Bean” anyway?

“My life as a basketball fan is becoming terribly conflicted…”

Yeah, that happens when you can’t figure out who to hate on next. I’d suggest maybe the Cavs?

MeanDovine

Now that Popovich has hopefully got over his geriatrtics are us mentality with regard to the Spurs’ roster! Hopefully he’ll finally begin to realize that they’ve got to go younger and become more athletic.

If not then we’ll be in for more of the same thing next year. They’ve also got to look for another scoring option because it’s become self evident that when either of the big three get cold the offense becomes so anemic that it’s a downright embarrassment!

And no amount of excuses can cover up that very fact!

tophatal ……

All very true, Tophat, but it was a great run.

The Spurs we’ll be back!

Something to say?